Talk:Red Star Courier

"Disclaimer: The opinions and views expressed in this paper do not reflect the opinions or views of Yssaria, its leaders, its nobles, or its sheep"

no disclaimer on the opinions or views of doughnuts? -- Aurum Bishamon Family 06:39, 20 June 2006 (CEST)

It is good to see Yssaria finally has a paper! Can the II take a bit of a break from noting Caligus' losses now? --The1exile 08:00, 20 June 2006 (CEST)

Hello Alex, how goes Itorunt. Yes, I know its only been a day or so since I've left, but I miss the Itorunt Informer and even some people in Itorunt. Is TK out of jail yet? -- Aurum Bishamon Family 08:24, 20 June 2006 (CEST)

Well, the disclaimer on the main page is mainly in regards to the non-officialness of the paper. This editors biases as regards to doughnuts (I am fiercly pro-doughnut, I will admit) is more of an editorial bias that would be properly mentioned in an appropriate context, like say, an editorial as to the superior form of baked goods. Of course, doughnuts transcend the mere status of baked good to become a philsophical symbol...but still.<grins>

And my salutations to the editor of the Itorunt Informer! You may, if you wish, take a break from noting the defeats of Caligus (I realize that this is a somewhat exhausting, no?), it will be within the Red Star Courier's editorial policy to make note of the results of our struggle against that realm part of our paper. -- Aeillien Mandraken 6:57, 20 June 2006 (EST)

You make it sound like we always lose.. The war has been raging for over a year and if we lost every battle how come Domus isn't flying a Yssarian flag?? Why did you copy the CC and Rampant Lion. Couldn't you come up with your own format??

-It has, indeed, been a back and forth struggle lasting well over a year. But I would not blame you if you were unhappy as to the recent results (of, say, the last three months). I, personally, have only been present in my realm for that long. Off the top of my head, whenever your realm and mine have met on the field of battle and the odds have been close, or significant forces have been involved, we have, by and large, won. This is why we have succesfully completed three takeovers (with the third currently still being up in the air) over your realm, and attacked your capital recently. But it is not my intention to debate who is winning this war with you in this particular forum. The field of battle will demonstrate in the fullness of time who will be victorious, and our respective papers will write those stories as they see fit.

As far as "copying" the CC and the Rampant Lion, as far as I can see, the layout of the CC and the Rampant Lion are not all that similar to each other, so it would be difficult for me to copy both. Secondly, there are only so many ways to sensibly lay out a newspaper. Thirdly, my layout was in part inspired by the Rampant Lion (which I attribute), however, a quick comparison of the two papers will make clear the fact that I have reformulated it according to my own prefrences. There is nothing wrong with using someone else's layout for inspirition. I looked at the Rampant Lion, as well as OR's paper, while creating my layout. I did not look at the CC, as I do not like your layout a great deal. (You are free, of course, not to believe me.) What matters most about a paper, in any case, is what is contained *within* the format. As to the quality of that... well, we shall see, no? -- Aeillien Mandraken 8:53, 20 June 2006 (EST)

I don't mind anyone "borrowing" my layout. Imitation being the sincerest form of flattery, and all that. The wiki is a collaborative effort. The things that help one, help us all. I stole the Template:Fontan Regions idea when I created the Template:Perdan Regions, then copied it again when I made the Template:Caligus Regions. It provides a nice feeling of consistency. Not that some realm couldn't do it differently, if they wanted. All this talk over who copied from who is pretty damn juvenile. ("We signed our articles first!" "No we did! And you stole our layout!"... Honestly, people, grow up.)

As to The Red Star Courier, I'm happy to see another paper get their start on the East Island. The more views we have of the events that occur, the better it is for all of us. I wish you guys the best of luck. It can be difficult to keep up with the continuous addition of new material. It can also be a very rewarding experience, too. --Indirik 16:09, 20 June 2006 (CEST)

Hardyharhar. Just to throw a wrench in all of your claims to fame, the Oligarchian Observer was the first paper to ever use the periodical format with any degree of success. We were the grandfather of all modern papers, even the ones that predate us, but became active after us. ;) Vellos 19:30, 20 June 2006 (CEST)

Speaking of formats, could somebody look at the layout of the page and explain to me why the sections and subsections don't show up as a table of contents anywhere? There's little point to using that feature without the quicklinks at the top, after all, and I cannot for the life of me figure it out. Email me at chilango2 at gmail dot com, or put it on my user talk page, or put it here, as you perfer. Thanks! --Aeillien Mandraken

The TOC will only count sections if they are marked using the appropriate wiki syntax, i.e. they have to be marked headers in ==title here== rather than just bold using <b> or ''text here''.

Aurum, it is good to hear from you again. TK is out again, as promised, although he still doesn't talk even to the higher ups, and you will be glad to hear (well you won't, but the other members of Itorunt will) that we deported one of Perdans saboteurs that was captured. Thray is apparenmtly going to sign up and help write articles as well, although there is little match for the peaceful HR articles you could somehow write so well.

Aeillien, you have lifted a huge weight off my shoulders. I am afraid that even with Caligus throwing fuel to the fire losing every huge battle bar one (which they drew), they take up a lot of my time that could be more profitably put to use, say, reporting that Perdans Menstrual Whiners are retreating, that Perdan failed their TO of Al Arab (thanks mostly to yours truly, Quake and the ineptitude of Waylander) and that Itorunt is retaking Zawr. Etc, Etc. You see there is a long to-do list, and I still need to get around designing the format for the II, which I have been meaning to do for a while. --The1exile 17:25, 20 June 2006 (CEST)

"The TOC will only count sections if they are marked using the appropriate wiki syntax, i.e. they have to be marked headers in ==title here== rather than just bold using <b> or ''text here''."''

I have been using equal signs, if you look, you'll event see the "edit" button next to each "section" there just isn't any table of contents. Go ahead and click open the edit page and see. <grins>

And Alex, I am happy to have lightened your load, that's what allies are for, after all, right? --Aeillien

Oh sorry, now I understand your problem. I thought you were asking why one which you put in before wasn't working. Take a look at the II's articles and you will see that you have to put __TOC__ at the top.

And I don't see the edit buttons. I have it disabled or something in options. Instead I can rightclick. --The1exile 18:55, 20 June 2006 (CEST)

Thanks, that fixed it. The layout is now in a semi-final stage. Thoughts and suggestions are, as always welcome. --Aeillien

Do not worry, I am also pro-doughnut, hoping I can build a bunch of southern guilds in the north for better representation. Also don't forget Alex, you are now head of operations of ARSE in the south. By the way, what did HR mean? -- AurumBishamon Family 20:55, 20 June 2006 (CEST)