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'''Fame''' Points are awarded when characters have attained offices, performed certain actions, or achieved certain statuses. Each Fame Point is unique, and will be given ''only once'' for each condition fulfilled. Trying to trigger the events with another character will ''not'' grant you repeated Fame Points, as it is a family attribute.
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'''Fame''' points are awarded when characters have attained offices, performed certain actions, or achieved certain statuses. Each Fame point is unique, and will be given ''only once'' for each condition fulfilled. Trying to trigger the events with another character will ''not'' grant you repeated Fame, as it is a family attribute.
  
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Many fame points are also granted after a short delay or on the turns. For example, if you get appointed as a region lord and step down immediately, chances are that you won't get the fame point for holding a local lord position.
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Many Fame points are also granted after a short delay or on the turns. For example, if you get appointed as a region lord but step down immediately, chances are that you will not get the Fame for holding that position. While the majority of the Fame points have been discovered, there are still a few that remain unknown, as [[User:Tom|Tom]] wishes to leave it that way.
  
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While the majority of the Fame Points have been discovered, there are still a few that remain unknown, as [[User:Tom|Tom]] wishes to leave it that way. This page outlines all of the known Fame Points. The speculation page on the possible, undiscovered Fame Points is referred to as [[Lemon Fame 2|Lemon Fame]].
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This page outlines all of the ''known'' information so far regarding Fame points. The speculation page on the possible, yet to be discovered Fame points is referred to as [[Lemon Fame 2|Lemon Fame]].
  
  
 
===Offices===
 
===Offices===
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(12 known points)
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* [[Ruler]]
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** 0<sup>th</sup> Day: <span style="color: green">1</span> point <sup>[[#1. For being elected or appointed.|[1]]]</sup>
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You will get '''1 point each''' for being elected or appointed to any of the 4 council positions ([[Ruler]], [[General]], [[Judge]] and [[Banker]]).
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** 10<sup>th</sup> Day: <span style="color: green">4</span> points <sup>[[#2. For a consecutive reign.|[2]]]</sup>
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** 100<sup>th</sup> Day: <span style="color: green">1</span> point <sup>[[#2. For a consecutive reign.|[2]]]</sup>
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Rulers will also get '''4 points''' on their 10th day and '''1 point''' for the 100th day of consecutive rulership (even one day of interruption will reset the counter).
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* [[General]]
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** <span style="color: green">1</span> point <sup>[[#1. For being elected or appointed.|[1]]]</sup>
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[[Region_Command|Region Lord]]s get '''1 point''', while [[Duke]]s get '''2 points'''. This means you can get 3 total for being first lord of a, say rural region and then lord of a city.
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* [[Judge]]
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** <span style="color: green">1</span> point <sup>[[#1. For being elected or appointed.|[1]]]</sup>
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* [[Banker]]
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** <span style="color: green">1</span> point <sup>[[#1. For being elected or appointed.|[1]]]</sup>
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* [[Duke]]
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** <span style="color: green">2</span> points
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* [[Region_Command|Region Lord]]
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** <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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'''Total Known: <span style="color: green">12</span> points'''
  
  
 
===Attributes===
 
===Attributes===
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(8 known points)
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* Individual [[Prestige]] <sup>[[#3. For high Prestige of an individual character.|[3]]]</sup>
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** 10 Prestige: <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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Fame is granted for high prestige of individual characters, namely '''1 point each''' for reaching 10, 20 and 50 prestige.
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** 20 Prestige: <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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** 50 Prestige: <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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Fame is also granted for high sum of prestige across all characters, namely '''1 point each''' for reaching a sum of 20, 50 and 100 prestige.
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* Family Prestige <sup>[[#4. For high sum of Prestige across all family characters.|[4]]]</sup>
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** 20 Prestige: <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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Wealthy families can also get '''1 point each''' of reaching 2000 and 5000 gold.
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** 50 Prestige: <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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** 100 Prestige: <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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* [[Family Wealth]]
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** 2000 Gold: <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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** 5000 Gold: <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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'''Total Known: <span style="color: green">8</span> points'''
  
  
 
===Events===
 
===Events===
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(9 known points)
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* Building a [[Palace]] or Moving the [[Capital]] <sup>[[#5. Leading to the same Fame.|[5]]]</sup>
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** <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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* '''1 point''' for publishing a book (requires [[Mentor]] points)
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* Founding a [[Guilds|Guild]] or a [[Priest Game|Religion]] <sup>[[#5. Leading to the same Fame.|[5]]]</sup>
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* '''1 point''' for Building a [[Palace]] or Moving the [[Capital]]
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** <span style="color: green">2</span> points
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* '''2 points''' for founding a [[Guilds|guild]] or religious order
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* Publishing a Book <sup>[[#6. Requiring Mentor points.|[6]]]</sup>
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* '''1 point''' for making a [[Family Investment]]
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** <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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* '''1 point''' for winning a tournament
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* Making a [[Family Investment]]
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* '''3 points''' for hosting a "successful" tournament ([[#Details Lacking|note]])
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** <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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* Winning a [[Tournament]]
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** <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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* Hosting a Successful Tournament <span style="color: red">(Details Lacking)</span> <sup>[[#7. The exact definition of a "successful" tournament is unknown.|[7]]]</sup>
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** <span style="color: green">3</span> points
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'''Total Known: <span style="color: green">9</span> points'''
  
  
 
===Deaths===
 
===Deaths===
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(6 known points)
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* Being Killed as a non-Hero <sup>[[#8. Usually by execution.|[8]]]</sup>
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** <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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* Winning a [[Duel]] to the [[death#Duels|Death]] <sup>[[#9. The defeated one must actually dies.|[9]]]</sup>
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** <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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* Dying as a [[Hero]] <sup>[[#10. In order to receive all 4 points, the lose of two heroes is needed, one legendary and one non-legendary.|[10]]]</sup>
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** <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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* Dying as a Legendary [[Hero]] <span style="color: red">(Details Lacking)</span> <sup>[[#10. In order to receive all 4 points, the lose of two heroes is needed, one legendary and one non-legendary.|[10]]]</sup><sup>[[#11. The exact criteria of a "legendary" status is unknown.|[11]]]</sup>
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** <span style="color: green">3</span> points
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'''Total Known: <span style="color: green">6</span> points'''
  
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* '''1 point''' for being killed as a non-hero (usually by [[death#Executions|execution]])
 
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* '''1 point''' for winning a [[Duel]] to the death, only if the loser actually dies
 
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* '''1 point''' for dying as a hero
 
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* '''3 points''' for dying as a "legendary" hero (this is a ''2nd'' death, so to get all 4 points, you will have to lose two heroes, one legendary and one non-legendary) ([[#Details Lacking|note]])
 
  
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===Unclarities===
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* Owning Exceptional Skill(s)
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** <span style="color: red">At Least 1</span> point
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* Being the Founder of a Successful Religion <sup>[[#12. Confirmed and have been made known to grant Fame by Tom, but most details still remain unknown.|[12]]]</sup>
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** <span style="color: red">At Least 1</span> point
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* Sponsoring a Successful Army <span style="color: gold">(Unimplemented)</span> <sup>[[#13. The exact criteria of a "successful" religion are unknown.|[13]]]</sup>
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** <span style="color: green">1</span> point
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'''Total Known: <span style="color: red">At Least 3</span> points'''
  
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== Details Lacking ==
 
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These are fame points that are known and have been confirmed by Tom, but details are still missing so that they are not included in the list above - (at least 3 known points)
 
  
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* There is at least one point of fame for skill(s).
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==Hints==
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* Being the Founder of successful religion grants fame in addition to founding it. How much and what the criteria for "successful" are, nobody but Tom knows.
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Since many players enjoy speculating about the unknown Fame points, here are some hints, directly from Tom himself:
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* Sponsoring a successful army (not yet implemented)
 
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* What exactly is a "successful tournament" ?
 
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* What exactly makes a hero "legendary" ?
 
  
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* Only one Fame point has not yet been collected - all other Fame points have been earned by at least one, usually many. This undiscovered Fame point can be earned in battle.
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* There is Fame in religion.
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* There is Fame for exceptional skill(s).
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* There is a trader-specific Fame point.
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* There is a Fame point that can be gained in the infiltrator career (technically also in others, though Tom doubts anyone but an infiltrator could really pull it off). It's not based on Honour, though. <sup>[[#14. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-April/001348.html|[14]]]</sup>
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* Some of the recently added Fame is easier for non-addicts to achieve, so some of the lower families will get Fame, too. <sup>[[#15. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-January/009362.html|[15]]]</sup>
  
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== Hints ==
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==Notes==
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Since many players enjoy speculating about the unknown fame points, here are some hints on the unknown Fame Points, from Tom himself:
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* Only one Fame Point has not yet been collected - all other Fame Points have been earned by at least one, usually many. This one un-discovered Fame Point can be earned in battle.
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* There is Fame in religion
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* There is Fame for exceptional skill(s)
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======1. For being elected or appointed.======
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* There is a trader-specific Fame Point
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======2. For a consecutive reign.======
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* There is a Fame Point that can be gained in the infiltrator career (technically also in others, but Tom doubts anyone but an infiltrator could really pull it off). It's not based on Honour, though. [http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-April/001348.html]
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======3. For high Prestige of an individual character.======
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* Some of the recently added Fame is easier for non-addicts to achieve, so some of the lower families will get Fame, too. [http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-January/009362.html]
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======4. For high sum of Prestige across all family characters.======
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======5. Leading to the same Fame.======
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======6. Requiring [[Mentor]] points.======
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======7. The exact criteria of a "successful" tournament are unknown.======
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======8. Usually by [[death#Executions|execution]].======
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======9. The defeated one must actually dies.======
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======10. In order to receive all 4 points, the lose of two heroes is needed, one legendary and one non-legendary.======
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======11. The exact criteria of a "legendary" status are unknown.======
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======12. Confirmed and have been made known to grant Fame by Tom, but most details still remain unknown.======
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======13. The exact criteria of a "successful" religion are unknown.======
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======14. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-April/001348.html======
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======15. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-January/009362.html======

Revision as of 23:55, 6 December 2006


Fame-o-meter
Available 50
Known 38
Unknown 12
High Score 38

Fame points are awarded when characters have attained offices, performed certain actions, or achieved certain statuses. Each Fame point is unique, and will be given only once for each condition fulfilled. Trying to trigger the events with another character will not grant you repeated Fame, as it is a family attribute.

Many Fame points are also granted after a short delay or on the turns. For example, if you get appointed as a region lord but step down immediately, chances are that you will not get the Fame for holding that position. While the majority of the Fame points have been discovered, there are still a few that remain unknown, as Tom wishes to leave it that way.

This page outlines all of the known information so far regarding Fame points. The speculation page on the possible, yet to be discovered Fame points is referred to as Lemon Fame.


Offices

Total Known: 12 points


Attributes

  • Individual Prestige [3]
    • 10 Prestige: 1 point
    • 20 Prestige: 1 point
    • 50 Prestige: 1 point
  • Family Prestige [4]
    • 20 Prestige: 1 point
    • 50 Prestige: 1 point
    • 100 Prestige: 1 point
  • Family Wealth
    • 2000 Gold: 1 point
    • 5000 Gold: 1 point

Total Known: 8 points


Events

Total Known: 9 points


Deaths

Total Known: 6 points


Unclarities

  • Owning Exceptional Skill(s)
    • At Least 1 point
  • Being the Founder of a Successful Religion [12]
    • At Least 1 point
  • Sponsoring a Successful Army (Unimplemented) [13]
    • 1 point

Total Known: At Least 3 points


Hints

Since many players enjoy speculating about the unknown Fame points, here are some hints, directly from Tom himself:

  • Only one Fame point has not yet been collected - all other Fame points have been earned by at least one, usually many. This undiscovered Fame point can be earned in battle.
  • There is Fame in religion.
  • There is Fame for exceptional skill(s).
  • There is a trader-specific Fame point.
  • There is a Fame point that can be gained in the infiltrator career (technically also in others, though Tom doubts anyone but an infiltrator could really pull it off). It's not based on Honour, though. [14]
  • Some of the recently added Fame is easier for non-addicts to achieve, so some of the lower families will get Fame, too. [15]

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1. For being elected or appointed.
2. For a consecutive reign.
3. For high Prestige of an individual character.
4. For high sum of Prestige across all family characters.
5. Leading to the same Fame.
6. Requiring Mentor points.
7. The exact criteria of a "successful" tournament are unknown.
8. Usually by execution.
9. The defeated one must actually dies.
10. In order to receive all 4 points, the lose of two heroes is needed, one legendary and one non-legendary.
11. The exact criteria of a "legendary" status are unknown.
12. Confirmed and have been made known to grant Fame by Tom, but most details still remain unknown.
13. The exact criteria of a "successful" religion are unknown.
14. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-April/001348.html
15. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-January/009362.html
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