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'''Fame''' points are awarded when characters have attained offices, performed certain actions, or achieved certain statuses. Each Fame point is unique, and will be given ''only once'' for each condition fulfilled. Trying to trigger the events with another character will ''not'' grant you repeated Fame, as it is a family attribute.
'''Fame''' Points are awarded when characters have attained offices, performed certain actions, or achieved certain statuses. Each Fame Point is unique, and will be given ''only once'' for each condition fulfilled. Trying to trigger the events with another character will ''not'' grant you repeated Fame Points, as it is a family attribute.


Many Fame points are also granted after a short delay or on the turns. For example, if you get appointed as a region lord but step down immediately, chances are that you will not get the Fame for holding that position. While the majority of the Fame points have been discovered, there are still a few that remain unknown, as [[User:Tom|Tom]] wishes to leave it that way.
Many fame points are also granted after a short delay or on the turns. For example, if you get appointed as a region lord and step down immediately, chances are that you won't get the fame point for holding a local lord position.


This page outlines all of the ''known'' information so far regarding Fame points. The speculation page on the possible, yet to be discovered Fame points is referred to as [[Lemon Fame 2|Lemon Fame]].
While the majority of the Fame Points have been discovered, there are still a few that remain unknown, as [[User:Tom|Tom]] wishes to leave it that way. This page outlines all of the known Fame Points. The speculation page on the possible, undiscovered Fame Points is referred to as [[Lemon Fame 2|Lemon Fame]].




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===Offices===
===Offices===
* [[Ruler]]
(12 known points)
:: 0<sup>th</sup> Day: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point <sup>[[#1. For being elected or appointed.|[1]]]</sup>
 
:: 10<sup>th</sup> Day: <span style="color: green">'''4'''</span> points <sup>[[#2. For a consecutive reign.|[2]]]</sup>
You will get '''1 point each''' for being elected or appointed to any of the 4 council positions ([[Ruler]], [[General]], [[Judge]] and [[Banker]]).
:: 100<sup>th</sup> Day: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point <sup>[[#2. For a consecutive reign.|[2]]]</sup>
 
* [[General]]
Rulers will also get '''4 points''' on their 10th day and '''1 point''' for the 100th day of consecutive rulership (even one day of interruption will reset the counter).
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point <sup>[[#1. For being elected or appointed.|[1]]]</sup>
 
* [[Judge]]
[[Region_Command|Region Lord]]s get '''1 point''', while [[Duke]]s get '''2 points'''. This means you can get 3 total for being first lord of a, say rural region and then lord of a city.
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point <sup>[[#1. For being elected or appointed.|[1]]]</sup>
* [[Banker]]
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point <sup>[[#1. For being elected or appointed.|[1]]]</sup>
* [[Duke]]
:: <span style="color: green">'''2'''</span> points
* [[Region_Command|Region Lord]]
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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'''Total Known: <span style="color: green">12</span> points'''




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===Attributes===
===Attributes===
* Individual [[Prestige]] <sup>[[#3. For high Prestige of an individual character.|[3]]]</sup>
(8 known points)
:: 10 Prestige: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
 
:: 20 Prestige: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
Fame is granted for high prestige of individual characters, namely '''1 point each''' for reaching 10, 20 and 50 prestige.
:: 50 Prestige: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
 
* Family Prestige <sup>[[#4. For high sum of Prestige across all family characters.|[4]]]</sup>
Fame is also granted for high sum of prestige across all characters, namely '''1 point each''' for reaching a sum of 20, 50 and 100 prestige.
:: 20 Prestige: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
 
:: 50 Prestige: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
Wealthy families can also get '''1 point each''' of reaching 2000 and 5000 gold.
:: 100 Prestige: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
* [[Family Wealth]]
:: 2000 Gold: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
:: 5000 Gold: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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'''Total Known: <span style="color: green">8</span> points'''




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===Events===
===Events===
* Building a [[Palace]] or Moving the [[Capital]] <sup>[[#5. Leading to the same Fame.|[5]]]</sup>
(9 known points)
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
 
* Founding a [[Guilds|Guild]] or a [[Priest Game|Religion]] <sup>[[#5. Leading to the same Fame.|[5]]]</sup>
* '''1 point''' for publishing a book (requires [[Mentor]] points)
:: <span style="color: green">'''2'''</span> points
* '''1 point''' for Building a [[Palace]] or Moving the [[Capital]]
* Publishing a Book <sup>[[#6. Requiring Mentor points.|[6]]]</sup>
* '''2 points''' for founding a [[Guilds|guild]] or religious order
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
* '''1 point''' for making a [[Family Investment]]
* Making a [[Family Investment]]
* '''1 point''' for winning a tournament
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
* '''3 points''' for hosting a "successful" tournament ([[#Details Lacking|note]])
* Winning a [[Tournament]]
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
* Hosting a Successful Tournament<br>''(Details Lacking)'' <sup>[[#7. The exact definition of a "successful" tournament is unknown.|[7]]]</sup>
:: <span style="color: green">'''3'''</span> points
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'''Total Known: <span style="color: green">9</span> points'''




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===Deaths===
===Deaths===
* Being Killed as a non-Hero <sup>[[#8. Usually by execution.|[8]]]</sup>
(6 known points)
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
* Winning a [[Duel]] to the [[death#Duels|Death]] <sup>[[#9. The defeated one must actually dies.|[9]]]</sup>
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
* Dying as a [[Hero]] <sup>[[#10. In order to receive all 4 points, the lose of two heroes is needed, one legendary and one non-legendary.|[10]]]</sup>
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
* Dying as a Legendary [[Hero]]<br>''(Details Lacking)'' <sup>[[#10. In order to receive all 4 points, the lose of two heroes is needed, one legendary and one non-legendary.|[10]]]</sup><sup>[[#11. The exact criteria of a "legendary" status is unknown.|[11]]]</sup>
:: <span style="color: green">'''3'''</span> points
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'''Total Known: <span style="color: green">6</span> points'''


* '''1 point''' for being killed as a non-hero (usually by [[death#Executions|execution]])
* '''1 point''' for winning a [[Duel]] to the death, only if the loser actually dies
* '''1 point''' for dying as a hero
* '''3 points''' for dying as a "legendary" hero (this is a ''2nd'' death, so to get all 4 points, you will have to lose two heroes, one legendary and one non-legendary) ([[#Details Lacking|note]])


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===Unclarities<small><small><sup>[[#12. Confirmed and have been made known to grant Fame by Tom, but most details still remain unknown.|[12]]]</sup></small></small>===
* Owning Exceptional Skill(s)
:: At least <span style="color: red">'''1'''</span> point
* Being the Founder of a Successful Religion <sup>[[#13. The exact criteria of a "successful" religion are unknown.|[13]]]</sup>
:: At least <span style="color: red">'''1'''</span> point
* Sponsoring a Successful Army<br>''(Unimplemented)''
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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'''Total Known: At least <span style="color: red">3</span> points'''


== Details Lacking ==
These are fame points that are known and have been confirmed by Tom, but details are still missing so that they are not included in the list above - (at least 3 known points)


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* There is at least one point of fame for skill(s).
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* Being the Founder of successful religion grants fame in addition to founding it. How much and what the criteria for "successful" are, nobody but Tom knows.
* Sponsoring a successful army (not yet implemented)
* What exactly is a "successful tournament" ?
* What exactly makes a hero "legendary" ?


==Hints==
Since many players enjoy speculating about the unknown Fame points, here are some hints, directly from Tom himself:


* Only one Fame point has not yet been collected - all other Fame points have been earned by at least one, usually many. This undiscovered Fame point can be earned in battle.
== Hints ==
* There is Fame in religion.
Since many players enjoy speculating about the unknown fame points, here are some hints on the unknown Fame Points, from Tom himself:
* There is Fame for exceptional skill(s).
* There is a trader-specific Fame point.
* There is a Fame point that can be gained in the infiltrator career (technically also in others, though Tom doubts anyone but an infiltrator could really pull it off). It's not based on Honour, though. <sup>[[#14. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-April/001348.html|[14]]]</sup>
* Some of the recently added Fame is easier for non-addicts to achieve, so some of the lower families will get Fame, too. <sup>[[#15. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-January/009362.html|[15]]]</sup>


==Notes==
* Only one Fame Point has not yet been collected - all other Fame Points have been earned by at least one, usually many. This one un-discovered Fame Point can be earned in battle.
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* There is a trader-specific Fame Point
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* There is a Fame Point that can be gained in the infiltrator career (technically also in others, but Tom doubts anyone but an infiltrator could really pull it off). It's not based on Honour, though. [http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-April/001348.html]
======1. For being elected or appointed.======
* Some of the recently added Fame is easier for non-addicts to achieve, so some of the lower families will get Fame, too. [http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-January/009362.html]
======2. For a consecutive reign.======
======3. For high Prestige of an individual character reaching the value.======
======4. For high sum of Prestige across all family characters reaching the value.======
======5. Leading to the same Fame.======
======6. Requiring [[Mentor]] points.======
======7. The exact criteria of a "successful" tournament are unknown.======
======8. Usually by [[death#Executions|execution]].======
======9. The defeated one must actually dies.======
======10. In order to receive all 4 points, the lose of two heroes is needed, one legendary and one non-legendary.======
======11. The exact criteria of a "legendary" status are unknown.======
======12. Confirmed and have been made known to grant Fame by Tom, but most details still remain unknown.======
======13. The exact criteria of a "successful" religion are unknown.======
======14. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-April/001348.html======
======15. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-January/009362.html======

Revision as of 06:46, 7 December 2006


Fame-o-meter
Available 50
Known 38
Unknown 12
High Score 38

Fame Points are awarded when characters have attained offices, performed certain actions, or achieved certain statuses. Each Fame Point is unique, and will be given only once for each condition fulfilled. Trying to trigger the events with another character will not grant you repeated Fame Points, as it is a family attribute.

Many fame points are also granted after a short delay or on the turns. For example, if you get appointed as a region lord and step down immediately, chances are that you won't get the fame point for holding a local lord position.

While the majority of the Fame Points have been discovered, there are still a few that remain unknown, as Tom wishes to leave it that way. This page outlines all of the known Fame Points. The speculation page on the possible, undiscovered Fame Points is referred to as Lemon Fame.


Offices

(12 known points)

You will get 1 point each for being elected or appointed to any of the 4 council positions (Ruler, General, Judge and Banker).

Rulers will also get 4 points on their 10th day and 1 point for the 100th day of consecutive rulership (even one day of interruption will reset the counter).

Region Lords get 1 point, while Dukes get 2 points. This means you can get 3 total for being first lord of a, say rural region and then lord of a city.


Attributes

(8 known points)

Fame is granted for high prestige of individual characters, namely 1 point each for reaching 10, 20 and 50 prestige.

Fame is also granted for high sum of prestige across all characters, namely 1 point each for reaching a sum of 20, 50 and 100 prestige.

Wealthy families can also get 1 point each of reaching 2000 and 5000 gold.


Events

(9 known points)

  • 1 point for publishing a book (requires Mentor points)
  • 1 point for Building a Palace or Moving the Capital
  • 2 points for founding a guild or religious order
  • 1 point for making a Family Investment
  • 1 point for winning a tournament
  • 3 points for hosting a "successful" tournament (note)


Deaths

(6 known points)

  • 1 point for being killed as a non-hero (usually by execution)
  • 1 point for winning a Duel to the death, only if the loser actually dies
  • 1 point for dying as a hero
  • 3 points for dying as a "legendary" hero (this is a 2nd death, so to get all 4 points, you will have to lose two heroes, one legendary and one non-legendary) (note)


Details Lacking

These are fame points that are known and have been confirmed by Tom, but details are still missing so that they are not included in the list above - (at least 3 known points)

  • There is at least one point of fame for skill(s).
  • Being the Founder of successful religion grants fame in addition to founding it. How much and what the criteria for "successful" are, nobody but Tom knows.
  • Sponsoring a successful army (not yet implemented)
  • What exactly is a "successful tournament" ?
  • What exactly makes a hero "legendary" ?


Hints

Since many players enjoy speculating about the unknown fame points, here are some hints on the unknown Fame Points, from Tom himself:

  • Only one Fame Point has not yet been collected - all other Fame Points have been earned by at least one, usually many. This one un-discovered Fame Point can be earned in battle.
  • There is Fame in religion
  • There is Fame for exceptional skill(s)
  • There is a trader-specific Fame Point
  • There is a Fame Point that can be gained in the infiltrator career (technically also in others, but Tom doubts anyone but an infiltrator could really pull it off). It's not based on Honour, though. [1]
  • Some of the recently added Fame is easier for non-addicts to achieve, so some of the lower families will get Fame, too. [2]