User talk:Bare Truth

Bro, some of the pics you've uploaded "toe the line" on being inappropriate for younger viewers. You may want to reconsider. --Calvin November ^t/_c on 15:06, 18 December 2006 (CET)

Innapropriate pictures

All pictures used are taken by artistic sites and are artwork from well known Artists (mainly Boris Vallejo, Luis Royo and others where stated) and as such -at least in European Countries- there are no restrictions concerning them. I can't say though for other places with different cultures, legal restrictions or certain puritan societies, and thus I have added the OOC warning at the first page, before any pictures are shown. I know for example that for a Muslim resident in certain countries, female nudity could be offensive. So I hope that he will take the ooc warning seriously.

Okay. Copyright and "OOC warning" questions aside, the latest rounds of your uploads are off the scale, in my humble opinion, even for more "liberal cultures". Many BattleMaster players are young and many access this wiki at public locations (such as work) where such images are not, shall we say, welcome. Three helpful articles on this inflammatory subject can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_Internet_pornography, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_pornography and (although I believe this wiki is hosted in Europe), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Decency_Act. Sorry if I seem pretty sensitive about this subject, but I've seen several lives ruined by porn and porn addictions. For what it's worth, http://www.pornnation.org/ is a super informative site on just how this stuff affects our culture(s). --Calvin November ^t/_c on 20:29, 19 December 2006 (CET)

I agree with Calvin_November, while some of this stuff is okay there are some others that cross into indecency. They are artists, I'm sure; but where is the line from artist to pornographer? Are they depicting the human form, or expressing and evoking headiness? Jezralhm 00:03, 20 December 2006 (CET)

That was a very interesting comment. There are vast differences from country to country. Here is an article I have found in Wiki and I believe it was rrather inetresting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_art.
Anyway, being a Greek, I'm used to nudity with all those male, female, even representations of the "forbidden" sexual intercourse, of ancient statues hanging around my country! :-)The problem though is that some morons few centuries ago cut off their genitals because they were offended! What a loss...Dimitris

That's Interesting indeed! Check this as well! I didn't know about Miller Test and the whole legal status in the US! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test

Boris and Luis?

Hey! I agree with you! But let's don't confuse art with pornography! Boris and Luis are two of the most famous artists as you can see at:

http://dir.yahoo.com/Arts/Visual_Arts/Illustration/Artists/Masters/Vallejo__Boris__b__1941_/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Royo http://www.luisroyo.com/

etc

Where of course not even a warning is needed! :)

My favourite fantasy artists actually! :-)

As long as there is a warning at the top, and the pictures are not shown on the main page, I think it's alright. Someone mentioned the line between art and pornography. I will mention the line between respecting different cultures and censorship.. You can't really satisfy everybody. For me the pictures are harmless. For some, they might not. And it's my opinion that the authors of the wikipage did what they could to ensure that no-one got offended

Judging by the Deletion Log, Tom disagrees.--Calvin November ^t/_c on 15:01, 20 December 2006 (CET)

He didn't delete any of the images. He deleted something completely irrelevant to this. - LilWolf 18:41, 20 December 2006 (CET)