Talk:Rank

How or when can Dukes call out the Vigilantes?

Minor point; what are Imperial Knights?

I'm not sure about Vigilantes, as neither of my Dukes have seen them before, but an Imperial Knight is essentially someone who comes under the 'Freeman and unaligned nobles' section in the hierarchy page, but is actually sworn to the King. For example, a Duke who loses his position due to inactivity automatically becomes an Imperial Knight. I'm pretty sure the General gets some of the same options to do with them in the same way that a Marshal does the soldiers within a Ducal Army. --Roy 31 December 2005 13:37 (CET)

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Okay, here's another question - is there any way to remove a Duke of Royal blood from power? Say, for example, an ex-King buys himself the title whilst the current Duke was absent, how would one get rid of him? You can't ban him or strip him of the title, and you can't protest him, so is assassinating him really the only option? --Roy 31 December 2005 13:37 (CET)

Yes we have an infil who assasinated the king. Took the position. Got protested out of office. He was a royal then and when our duke was inactive he stole the title. Dan raymond December 31, 2005 18:40 (CET)

lol, yeah, that's be the same situation that I was talking about in Ethiala then? I was just being slightly circumspect and trying not to name names ;) Still, it is a pain in the ass that there's nothing we can do about it...unless anyone has any suggestions? --Roy 1 January 2006 13:34 (CET)

I think I heard that Tom said something about infils not being allowed to hold government positions anymore, or something like that might be implemented soon. Not sure though. Vellos 1 January 2006 16:41 (CET)

Yes, this is implemented now. Olik 1 January 2006 18:47 (CET)

The problem is that he's not King anymore. A Duke probably doesn't count as a government position, so it leaves us back at square one. --Roy 1 January 2006 16:50 (CET)

Assignment to a Liege

It says here under (Lesser) Noble that that is the initial rank one gets when they join a realm. However, when I created my first character it was automatically assigned a liege lord (which probably not coincidentally was the lord for the same region that his family was assigned to). My second character was indeed not given a liege lord to start with.

So, is this an option on the Realm, or is this an exception for a players first character? --JeffW 01:00, 10 May 2006 (CEST)

This is for all first characters, so new players don't have to look around confused, but can start the game more quickly. --Tom 08:17, 10 May 2006 (CEST)

Knights, landed nobility, and government positions

There are several references on this page to restrictions on holding positions based on being a land holder or Knight. As far as I know, the following assertions made on this page are incorrect or misleading:

• (Lesser) Noble: "... and he can not be elected ... to any government position ..." - You can be elected to any government position voted on by the realm. You cannot be appointed as region lord or Marshal unless you sworn to region lord, and therefore part of a duchy.
• Knight: "Knights can also be elected to all government positions except that of ruler." - Anyone with enough prestige and time in the realm can be elected to any government position.
• Lord: "Only landed nobility or royals can be elected as ruler of a realm." - Anyone with enough prestige and time in the realm can be elected to any government position.

--Indirik 14:21, 15 August 2006 (CEST)

Made a start, but this whole page is out of date. --The1exile 16:36, 15 August 2006 (CEST)

Update?

Perhaps this page should be updated to take into consideration adventurers? -Chénier 21:08, 15 April 2007 (CEST)

• Especially the distinction between 'outlaw' and 'freeman'.