Talk:Government Position
Is it worth adding the templates that are at Government System here, or a variant thereof, with the names that each position is in each kind of system? I'll throw up an example page later. DorianGray 28 July 2005 09:27 (CEST)
- All done. User:DorianGray/Government_Position. DorianGray 28 July 2005 09:44 (CEST)
- Yes, I think it's worth it. Though maybe it should be smaller (smaller font, less padding, etc.) and the intro text should explain that the same titles carry different names. --Tom 28 July 2005 14:45 (CEST)
Adding Marshals
I was about to add a bit about the Marshal position, but then I read the part about "...every realm in BattleMaster is ruled by a four-member government. These various positions and their responsibilities are described below." and I was hesitant to add something that wasn't part of the 4-member Council. Here's a copy of what I propose should be added (between General and Banker):
Marshal
Marshals are appointed by Dukes from his/her Knights to organize the defence of the Duchy. The Marshal acts as both an agent of the Duke and an agent of the General. Depending on the realm structure, a Marshal may be a mini-General inside their Duchy or they may be little more then a replacement for the since abolished BattleGroup Leader.
Marshal's have the ability to take command of any battle, (their Leadership skill is taken into account) and place troops into a Formation that was selected before the battle. This ability gives Marshals great power, and as such, should be selected wisely.
This position is part of the new Duchy code. Not all features have been introduced yet.
I can add this to the page, provided that no one has any complaints.~ Marc J. December 24, 2005 20:37 (CET)
Requirements
I see that I am not eligible, for lack of honour and prestige, to be elected for positions in government. What are the requirements? -Chénier 02:28, 9 November 2006 (CET)
- I believe it is 10 prestige (15 for ruler) to be elected, but I think almost anyone can be appointed. Not sure about honour, but since it is easier to gain than prestige, it usually goes unnoticed. Fredrich 02:54, 9 November 2006 (CET)
Multiple Positions
Is it possible for a person to hold more than one government position? Is it dependant on which form of government they use, ex., a tyranny? I know one can have a title and a government position, but I have yet to see someone with two government positions... D.west.ton 21:14, 23 September 2008 (CEST)
- Yes it possible and I have seen it happen more than once. One of the positions has to be elected though as you can't be appointed to more than one. So it would have to be in a Democracy or Republic.--Athins 21:59, 23 September 2008 (CEST)
- It can happen in any government type. One of my characters has twice been ruler, then elected as judge in the same realm. I have also seen it happen in Theocracies. I believe that the ruler in a Tyranny can appoint themselves to another position, but I'm not positive about that. --Indirik 22:38, 23 September 2008 (CEST)
- Okay, so it is possible to be both ruler and judge, or whatever, at the same time. And it may depend on government? elections in democracy/republic and appointment in monarchy/theocracy. and tyranny is not fully known... that is good to know. D.west.ton 22:46, 23 September 2008 (CEST)
- The only limitations are to appointments, depending on government types, really. That, and there is a limit to how many titles you can have. The max I think I've heard of was ruler/duke/judge, though I'm not sure you can have three high positions. You can easily be banker/judge/lord, for example. -Chénier 23:03, 23 September 2008 (CEST)
- does it really depend on gov type per se? I would think it depend on what gov settings the ruler sets. On dwilight at least, I was duke, general and judge at the same time.. because I voted myself in. I would imagine it's possible to hold 5 positions. duke gets himself in a ruler.. then vote himself in for the other 3 positions. The old gov types may or may not be somewhat obsolete with the new gov settings. (then again.. i've only played in republics)--Fodder 09:26, 24 September 2008 (CEST)
- I know for a fact that it cannot happen in a Monarchy. Once my king appointed a person Judge,I tired to appoint them banker as well but couldn't. (Their name disappears from the list.) It is always possible to be a duke, lord, or marshal and be placed in a government position. (With the exception of ruler in a democracy which will take away any lordships when you are elected.) --Athins 21:35, 24 September 2008 (CEST)
- Now, see, this is completely inaccurate. I know for a fact that you can be elected to both ruler and judge in a monarchy. (It has already happened to one of my characters. Twice.) Darka's current ruler, Amaarent, is also currently the banker, too: She appointed herself. If you are elected ruler in any government type, you lose the lordship of any region you may have had. --Indirik 21:53, 24 September 2008 (CEST)
- Not on dwilight you don't. It's very weird there.--Fodder 08:47, 26 September 2008 (CEST)
- On BT, when you were elected ruler as judge, it immediatly made you lose your judgeship. However, you could be voted right back in without consequence. Some governments (tyrannies and theocracies) allow for rulers to appoint themselves as dukes, while the others do not. If a ruler can be elected duke in republics and democracies, I do not know. -Chénier 05:36, 27 September 2008 (CEST)
- on a further note, there appears to be no such thing as region elections in dwilight (for republic at least)--Fodder 08:38, 27 September 2008 (CEST)
- On BT, when you were elected ruler as judge, it immediatly made you lose your judgeship. However, you could be voted right back in without consequence. Some governments (tyrannies and theocracies) allow for rulers to appoint themselves as dukes, while the others do not. If a ruler can be elected duke in republics and democracies, I do not know. -Chénier 05:36, 27 September 2008 (CEST)
- Not on dwilight you don't. It's very weird there.--Fodder 08:47, 26 September 2008 (CEST)
Bankers' taxes
I've known the wealth and property taxes to act as two different taxes for a while now, the first needing to have twice the limit of the second. However, is this more than just a way to make gradual taxes, does it have any other effect? I hear that guilds and the like are taxed... how much? Is this it? -Chénier 17:25, 27 September 2008 (CEST)
- Guilds are taxed to the local treasury at the rate of the region the guildhouse resides in, irrespective of wealth and property tax, I think. --The1exile 18:31, 27 September 2008 (CEST)