User talk:Marc J.

Realm Pages

You're welcome to create new realm pages, but please make sure that they contain more than:

 A Realm in Island.

They should contain useful information. At a bare minimum, they should at least have a copy of the publically available realm summary. Ideally, they should contain more information about the realm. The pages for Minas Ithil and Riombara are a good start, most of the rest aren't. Try and cover a few realms well, before you start creating pages for every realm. Thanks -- Nicholas September 6, 2005 22:35 (CEST)

Heard and understood! My plan was to put more in, but with two of my three characters getting wounded and imprisoned I couldn't get more recent information. I was going to use the Old Wiki information as spareingly as possible because, well, its old. Marc J.

Oh and I keep seeing this 'You have New Messages!' link when I sign in. It links here, but it won't go away! Hopefully now that I've put this here it'll go away. Marc J.

Nope, still here. Any ideas how to get it to go away? Marc J.

I cannot help you on the message problem but I can give you a real one. Thank you for correcting my terrible language I was a bit too tired. By the way I intentionally always spell the true TOM with capital letter, no less would be an offense to the great god of BattleMaster! --Rasmus October 6, 2005 00:29 (CET)

Page Naming

Marc, there is no reason to use slashes in your page names, the wiki does not work on a directory structure. The name "Roleplay Introduction", would fit with the wiki naming, and would be easier to others to find.

Whoever wrote this doesn't know what he's talking about. The slash nomenclature denotes subpages, and are not just OK, but are strongly encouraged. --John 10 October 2005 15:37 (CEST)

Thanks, I make sure and remember it. If I'm trying to do something and I don't know how to do it, I normally just surf around the Wiki until I find a good example. Then I copy it, so thats where I got the "/" from. --Marc J. 10 October 2005 20:53 (CEST)

Templates

There's not a page listing them, (though News Guide comes close) but I learned most of what I know about templates from experimenting with a copy of Template:Userdata, which Tom wrote a while ago -- he uses several very useful tricks. Check the code on my userpage for an example of how to fill it out. --John 2 November 2005 15:06 (CET)

You have no idea how happy I am! I've been looking for a long, long time for something simple and easy to learn that has to do with programming and stuff like that. I think I just made my first template... would you be willing to take a look at it to see if it works?

Template:Character - This is where it's at. Even a glance or two would be good for me. ~ Marc J. 2 November 2005 17:54 (CET)

Template List

The Catagories page was the first place I looked, I think I saw something that said that the Catagory Page shouldn't be used as a reference guide. If thats true, is there a reference that includes the different topics? If it's not true, should Templates get their own Catagory? I've got free time during different parts of the week, if no one else, (who actually knows what they're doing) has time to write up a Template Catagory, I could do it. If it's needed/wanted, of course. :) ~ Marc J. 2 November 2005 18:00 (CET)

Marc J. Doesn't Know How To Spell "You're"

[comment moved] Marc J., you spelled "Your" wrong on the "Too Much Battle Master" page. You changed it from what was correct to spelling it incorrect. You're is short for you are. Your is like, your dog, your house... etc.

Yes, it is. Give me a moment and I will check to see if I didn't mistakenly change something that was right the first time. ~ Marc J. 26 November 2005 19:41 (CET)

Yes, well... it seems I did. Sorry for that and thank you for correcting my mistakes. [P.S. You can leave your signature behind on comments that you leaving by typing this: "~~~~"] ~ Marc J. 26 November 2005 19:45 (CET)

The Oligarchian Observer

Here's some tips on how to customize your own newspaper templates to let them fit right in with your needs. I do not use the templates in my Digest though.

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For instance the following paragraph:

{{Template:News_major_small_left|
title= Einar and his troops march back.|
article=

''Written by Lu'an''

Quickly after Svunnetland troops interfeared with the complicated situation in the south, they now march back too their own lands. It seems that even the mighty armies from the old empire don't really how the to react in this complicated situation. We will keep you updated on the situation.|
}}

Einar and his troops march back.

Written by Lu'an Quickly after Svunnetland troops interfeared with the complicated situation in the south, they now march back too their own lands. It seems that even the mighty armies from the old empire don't really how the to react in this complicated situation. We will keep you updated on the situation.

You can find the original code of Template:News_major_small_left at exactly the article titled Template:News_major_small_left:

{| border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" style="width: 35%; float: left; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse;"
| width="35%" colspan="2" style="font-size: 200%; text-align:
center;"|{{{title}}}
|-
| width="35%" colspan="2" |{{{article}}}
|}

Substitute the {{{title}}} part with the title Einar and his troops march back., and the {{{article}}} part with your whole article, you get:

{| border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" style="width: 35%; float: left; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse;"
| width="35%" colspan="2" style="font-size: 200%; text-align:
center;"|Einar and his troops march back.
|-
| width="35%" colspan="2" |

''Written by Lu'an''

Quickly after Svunnetland troops interfeared with the complicated situation in the south, they now march back too their own lands. It seems that even the mighty armies from the old empire don't really how the to react in this complicated situation. We will keep you updated on the situation.
|}

The whole article will appear in the same way, but by applying the original template code you can fiddle the format by changing some of the parameters inside. If you change style="width: 35%; float: left into style="width: 75%; float: right, the article will use up 75% of page space counting from the right side border of the page.

Einar and his troops march back.

Written by Lu'an Quickly after Svunnetland troops interfeared with the complicated situation in the south, they now march back too their own lands. It seems that even the mighty armies from the old empire don't really how the to react in this complicated situation. We will keep you updated on the situation.

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As a second example:

{{Template:News_minor_left|
title=Contact the editors:|
article=
[[mailto:Stefanodemonte@gmail.com| Lu'an and Pierre]]
Antozian Times HQ,
Sir Westley street 25a,
Anacan,
Antoza Commenwealth.|
}}

Contact the editors:

[Lu'an and Pierre] Antozian Times HQ, Sir Westley street 25a, Anacan, Antoza Commenwealth.

I guess one would like to see an infobox like this to be put right in the center, so we changed the template from Template:News_minor_left into Template:News_minor_columns:

{| border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" style="width: 100%; float: left; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse;"
| width="20%" colspan="2" style="font-size: 150%; text-align: center;"|
| width="50%" colspan="2" style="font-size: 150%; text-align: center;"|Contact the editors:
| width="30%" colspan="2" style="font-size: 150%; text-align: center;"|
|-
| width="20%" colspan="2" |
| width="50%" colspan="2" |
[[mailto:Stefanodemonte@gmail.com| Lu'an and Pierre]]
Antozian Times HQ,
Sir Westley street 25a,
Anacan,
Antoza Commenwealth.
| width="30%" colspan="2" |
|}

		Contact the editors:
		[Lu'an and Pierre] Antozian Times HQ, Sir Westley street 25a, Anacan, Antoza Commenwealth.

As you can see I adjusted the percentage settings of the size of three columns, inputted blanks for the titles and article parts of both left and right columns and put the main text in central column instead, so it appears as if the article is right in the center.

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So much to be said, the only most important thing that make a newspaper a success, is that you get a good editor that willing to write those reports continuously. I wish these words of mine will help you in your journalist career.

Gsklee 5 December 2005 05:41 (CET)

Thanks for the tips, it was night time when I first put the page up, (my first draft :P ). I haven't got a chance to "take a second look" at the page yet, but when I do, I think that I can maybe "fiddle" around with the settings. Since I'm the first person to put something up, I was going to go with the templates as a procaution in case whe expand our editors. Not everyone, (myself included) knows how to make it look all pur-dy without templates to guide us. ~ Marc J. 5 December 2005 21:50 (CET)

Reply to: User_talk:Gsklee#Newspaper(s)

Sorry, I am not that resourceful... You can probably find your answer somewhere further from this page, but I would recommend you not bothering yourself with that. I heard there are some kind of programs out there that are able to convert HTML tables into Wiki syntax, and for all I know most of the templates we see on the BattleMaster Wiki were copied/modified works from the English Wikipedia.

I have no idea how the hell these cellpadding and cellspacing work exactly, but I know there is no need to change them if what we want to do is only to change the position of where the article starts/ends. What you only need to change is this part: style="width: xx%; float: left/right.

Gsklee 6 December 2005 13:10 (CET)

Okay then. I guess I misread what you where saying... my fault. Before I make any changes to what I have now, I'll play with it a bit and see what I can get. Thanks for the tips though! (P.S. I put a thank you note at the end of the second article!) ~ Marc J. 7 December 2005 04:23 (CET)

If you run into some messy coding problems you cannot fix in the future feel free to ask me for a look :) -- Gsklee 7 December 2005 05:08 (CET)

Templates

Okay, I finally got it. It is possible to do what you've said about your character box template; all the knowledge is at here and there you go.

Those fancy syntax however, are for Wikisites using MediaWiki higher than version 1.6 only, which is not the case of BattleMaster Wiki I believe because I've tried some of them here and they didn't turn out to be what they should be. So unless we can bug Tom to upgrade the software I guess we better stick to what we have right now :( -- Gsklee 22 December 2005 15:14 (CET)

Arg! Thanks for the information... I guess I'm just going to have to make my templates be copy'n paste-able. ~ Marc J. 22 December 2005 19:39 (CET)

Templates

I looked through those pages and couldn't find anything you were describing, although I found something that might serve the same purpose (but didn't look at it in great detail, just glossed over it). Consider looking at 'Effect of an undefined parameter if no default has been specified' and similar below on the wikimedia meta page on templates, however that seems more of a workaround than you seemed to be after. Although I have to say that some of the paramaters your after from people seem pretty pointless.

I also converted your html table version of Template:Character to wiki pipe syntax and created Template:Character page. Pipe syntax, while maybe confusing at first, is easier than html for those that aren't versed in it and looks cleaner when editing pages (IMHO). DorianGray 26 December 2005 15:02 (CET)

Thank you for converting it. As you can probably tell by looking at my work, I really don't know what I'm doing! I'm thinking about what you said about "pointless" things, I do believe you may be right... thanks for pointing that out! ~ Marc J. December 26, 2005 21:47 (CET)

Burrito

"i.e. if god can't make a burrito so hot that not even he can eat it, then how can he be everywhere at once?"

Very profound, actually. Can god be inside a hot uneatable by nayone including him burrito? Who knows. --The1exile 23:05, 19 August 2006 (CEST)

Capital Move issue

Interesting stuff, thanks for posting it to the wiki for us who are interested to read. Persnally I think it SHOULD be moved back and don't know why it isn't being done now. --The1exile 18:08, 10 October 2006 (CEST)

Oligarch Page

Yeah, thats not the first time Deveron has vandalized it. He's tried once before. He's also tried removing OCPAU. The only Oligarch thing he HASNT attacked is the Observer. So I'm watching closely to protect my beloved observer... Vellos 18:22, 19 October 2006 (CEST)

Intro page

I had a look at it, cleaned it up a tad (e.g. wiki formatting instead of html), but mostly it looks ok to me. If there's anything you can see that needs to be done, feel free to do it yourself, or tell me. --The1exile 13:45, 10 March 2007 (CET)

Page Edit requested

Someone has requested that the page http://wiki.battlemaster.org/index.php/User:Marc_J./Luz_Capital_Debate be removed or edited to remove the names of the people on it. Apparently, some companies do Google searches for potential employees and can't seperate online games from the real world, so they ask stupid questions when your name shows up in such a debate.

Since it's on your user page, I decided to ask you first.

--Tom 10:13, 5 May 2008 (CEST)