Talk:Nighthelm/Gul'Dan's Death

Note. This battle took place in Idaol not Cutnipaniel, and the player did his own RP about the death with another of his characters in the Far East.--Steve2609 21:22, 9 March 2007 (CET)

Someone that knows what's going on. Thanks. Could you please change it. Just note that the game mechanics said Kazuma did kill Gul'Dan. -- Shenron

I don't think the game mechanics get that specific, because the battle (I had a character there) said Gul'Dan was wounded, and the next round said he was killed, but not by who.--Steve2609 16:59, 10 March 2007 (CET)

Right under "Gul'Dan, King of Nighthelm has been killed" It his Kazuma had collected the bounty. At first I didn't see it. Then I received a bulk of messages from fellow Aenilians saying "Good Job, you slew Gul'Dan" and from Nighthelm saying "I hate you etc. etc. etc." You are free to give different versions of the story or whatever.

"Another Note: Kazuma is not a hero, and therefore would not have been the one to personally kill Gul'Dan, as only heros fight alongside their men, thus the reason why they count as a man on the battlefield. For the sake of not undermining the hero class, the below RP should be not be considered factual, but as mere propoganda about the battle."

Secondly I not going to believe that for one second until you give me a wiki page saying that, non-hero's can't die, nobody said they can't kill.

Another thing. that was Fredrick's dream....argh, this sucks you know that!!! Look if it's so bad how about we put as opening something about blah blah blah blah then nobody know how Gul'Dan dies because not enough people saw it. Kazuma's tale, Fredrick's dream etc., -- Shenron

If Kazuma received the bounty on Gul'Dans head, any one man of his unit can be the killer. Now, the bounty goes to the commander of the unit that kills the hero in question, that doesn't necessarily mean it was the commander himself who did it. And as owner of two hero characters myself, I believe that, since heroes are the only class to fight side by side with their men, credit should go to Kazuma's unit, not Kazuma himself. -Pizarro 04:30, 11 March 2007 (CET)

hehe, nobody said a knight can't go to battle. it says that hero's do not that knights don't. -- Shenron

If knights went into battle, then theyld also have the extra man in their unit. They don't, therefore it wasthe unit that killed Gul'Dan not the nobles. Also, if Gul'Dan was killed by rcher fire (see Fredrick's dream) that's most definitely not a noble unless it was a hero (archers are the lowest of the low). --The1exile 10:33, 11 March 2007 (CET)

This is battlemaster not real medieval times. If it was real medieval times it would be a boring game but I'm sick of this. I'm sick of everyone that believes one thing when it suits them but then when it doesn't. Goes and sides with hardcore "everything has to be exactly medieval". If we were following like real medieval times, all of my character's personalities would not exist or San would not be a dual swordfighting master dude. These are all modern images of people.

But I through all that I'm sick of these smartass that don't know what an RP is. Like a frikin calculator. bare facts, black and white. What more can I say. If it makes you all happy I'll go and take off the whole story. I'll then tell everyone in my realm that I didn't kill Gul'Dan because "Pizarro, TheExile1 and Steve (several numbers) said so. Because they have a huge problem with me like I've done something horribly wrong to them. I don't know why you guys have such a bloody HUGE problem with something that don't go your way. -- Shenron

Calm down.

Re: Medieval: Had that discussion http://news.battlemaster.org/archives/discuss/2007-February/021352.html

Re: San: San is perfectly fine as a medieval nobl. what makes yo uthink that in medieval times they didn't have great swordsmen?

As for the rest of it, it's nice to know that you can call us all crappy RPers for simply wanting you to stick within the bounds of the game. --The1exile 12:08, 11 March 2007 (CET)

Hehe, don't worry. He was probably having a really bad day.

and this, "It _is_ a medieval setting. It is not a medieval simulation, so it takes liberties for the sake of more interesting gameplay."

is exactly what Shenron is trying to say. I'm sitck up for Shenron you guys are acting like he went and gratified all over your homes. I can see why he's suddenly lost it. -- Shinoda

All I did was post up the RP from the player and say it was the accepted way in the south. Yes, it was done as a dream, but my character Scion was in that battle...sort of. He was evading and registered neutral, but he was at the battle. I can choose to believe either one, and I chose the one of the player. That's my choice.

and from Nighthelm saying "I hate you etc. etc. etc."

Umm...we said that to everyone. Not just one person in general. It's common to hate most people who invade your lands for no real reason. But this isn't about the war.--Steve2609 16:26, 11 March 2007 (CET)

Ugh....hey......sorry, I kind of....snapped. --Shenron

The argument that say, knights fight in battle, is that they sometimes gain sword and joust skills. Moreover, you couldn't capture a knight if he wasn't out there also. so I think there is a good argument that Kazuma is on the battlefield, but probably is more cautious than a hero, giving orders but not charging. Thus it could be possible that Gul'Dan and Kazuma met on the battlefield, however, I would defer to the player of Gul'Dan whether it was general infantry or a noble that slew him. Malitia 17:55, 12 March 2007 (CET)