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This newspaper hurts to read now. I once held Perdan to be <i>the</i> most honorable, benevolent, and faithful realm still standing in the East Continent. I actually believed the slogan of the Rampant Lion, that Perdan would always stand by the weak, the oppressed, those faced by the great tyrants who would destroy those for their own gain. Damn it Perdan! You <i>believed</i> those lies, and look at this now! Yes, the Islands are being led into ruin and destruction, you have stated examples in your article. Then why would you forsake your principles and side with the conniving snakes!? How could you Perdan? [[User:Elenar|Elenar]] 04:40, 19 January 2007 (CET)
 
This newspaper hurts to read now. I once held Perdan to be <i>the</i> most honorable, benevolent, and faithful realm still standing in the East Continent. I actually believed the slogan of the Rampant Lion, that Perdan would always stand by the weak, the oppressed, those faced by the great tyrants who would destroy those for their own gain. Damn it Perdan! You <i>believed</i> those lies, and look at this now! Yes, the Islands are being led into ruin and destruction, you have stated examples in your article. Then why would you forsake your principles and side with the conniving snakes!? How could you Perdan? [[User:Elenar|Elenar]] 04:40, 19 January 2007 (CET)
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:Elenar, you need to brush up on your reading comprehension. We seek '''justice'''. If the actions of a realm are unjust, deceitful, and destructive, then they do not deserve to be defended. No, Elenar, you are not the one that needs defending in this case. '''You yourself are the deceiver and the manipulator.''' Perdan would not stand behind a horse thief, and so neither would we stand behind the current Kalmar Islands government. Oligarch used to be a friend and ally of the Kalmar Islands. When El Cid Rogala stole the islands in a brutal rebellion, the entire island rose up in condemnation of the acts. Everyone, that is, except the Avamarians, who decided that this would be a great opportunity to steal a realm for themselves. So they abandoned the allies that had given them shelter. They ran from Oligarch as fast as their traitorous feet could carry them, taking with them hundreds of Oligarch troops, and weakening Oligarch's defenses in those final days of invasion by Sirion and Fontan. What a great way to pay back your friends for sheltering you, and giving you a chance to strike back at your enemies. The Avamarians usurped the government of the Islands from the Tyrant, and refused to return it to it's rightful nobles and government. Justice in the islands can only be reached by removing the stain and corruption of the occupying forces. ''That'' is what we are doing in the islands. Fulfilling our promise to the nobles of the Kalmar Islands that we made as soon as the rebellion of El Cid was complete. Our promise and commitment to the rightful inhabitants of the islands has nothing to do with Sirion, Fontan, or our recently concluded war. Your attempts to cloud the issue by making all sorts of wild accusations fools no one other than your own brainwashed citizens. Perdan '''will''' lead the islands out of their current destruction and ruin. But we will do it '''our''' way. And that way does not include a future of servitude under the control of the Avamarians.  --[[User:Indirik|Indirik]] 15:48, 19 January 2007 (CET)

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Old comments removed, again... --Indirik 14:37, 15 December 2006 (CET)

Just FYI...that quote was from John Stuart Mill in 1862. He was in England trying to bolster support for the Union troops in America's Civil War....it's one of Mike Cantrell's (char: Mikolas) favorite quotes of all time. -- Uceek 05:11, 24 November 2006 (CET)

Wow! The very best propaganda I have seen for long time! Even better than my favorite tabloid "Avamar Times". Keep up the good work. Finally the Rampant Lion becomes popular Liberator 23:37, 18 January 2007 (CET)

This newspaper hurts to read now. I once held Perdan to be the most honorable, benevolent, and faithful realm still standing in the East Continent. I actually believed the slogan of the Rampant Lion, that Perdan would always stand by the weak, the oppressed, those faced by the great tyrants who would destroy those for their own gain. Damn it Perdan! You believed those lies, and look at this now! Yes, the Islands are being led into ruin and destruction, you have stated examples in your article. Then why would you forsake your principles and side with the conniving snakes!? How could you Perdan? Elenar 04:40, 19 January 2007 (CET)

Elenar, you need to brush up on your reading comprehension. We seek justice. If the actions of a realm are unjust, deceitful, and destructive, then they do not deserve to be defended. No, Elenar, you are not the one that needs defending in this case. You yourself are the deceiver and the manipulator. Perdan would not stand behind a horse thief, and so neither would we stand behind the current Kalmar Islands government. Oligarch used to be a friend and ally of the Kalmar Islands. When El Cid Rogala stole the islands in a brutal rebellion, the entire island rose up in condemnation of the acts. Everyone, that is, except the Avamarians, who decided that this would be a great opportunity to steal a realm for themselves. So they abandoned the allies that had given them shelter. They ran from Oligarch as fast as their traitorous feet could carry them, taking with them hundreds of Oligarch troops, and weakening Oligarch's defenses in those final days of invasion by Sirion and Fontan. What a great way to pay back your friends for sheltering you, and giving you a chance to strike back at your enemies. The Avamarians usurped the government of the Islands from the Tyrant, and refused to return it to it's rightful nobles and government. Justice in the islands can only be reached by removing the stain and corruption of the occupying forces. That is what we are doing in the islands. Fulfilling our promise to the nobles of the Kalmar Islands that we made as soon as the rebellion of El Cid was complete. Our promise and commitment to the rightful inhabitants of the islands has nothing to do with Sirion, Fontan, or our recently concluded war. Your attempts to cloud the issue by making all sorts of wild accusations fools no one other than your own brainwashed citizens. Perdan will lead the islands out of their current destruction and ruin. But we will do it our way. And that way does not include a future of servitude under the control of the Avamarians. --Indirik 15:48, 19 January 2007 (CET)