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==Current Highlight==
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==Highlight==
===Careers===
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* Bounty Fame
* [[Trader]]
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:; Source
** Ending Starvation without Profit
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: From one of Tom's hints in [[Lemon Fame 2#Bounties|Lemon Fame]].
  
===Attributes===
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:; Guess
* [[Ban]]
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: Related with the amount of gold be put up within a single addition.
** ?
 
* [[Bounty]]
 
** Number of Nobles adding to bounty
 
* [[Attributes#Skills|Skills]]
 
** Swordfighting 50%
 
** Jousting 50%
 
** Leadership 50%
 
** Trading 50%
 
** Bureaucracy 50%
 
** Infiltration 50%
 
** Preaching 50%
 
  
===Deaths===
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:; Deduction
* Being Killed as a [[Hero]]
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: It seems safe to assume that there is no Fame for the sheer size of the bounty, at least not solely depend on which. We know that the highest bounty ever is 1550 gold. We know from [[Fame#Hints|Tom's hints]] that this Bounty Fame has been collected by some. [[User:Gsklee|I]] have a character with a bounty of 1000 gold but there is no Fame for this. So unless a trigger was set for a bounty beyond 1000 gold, which seems very unlikely to me, continuing the search towards this direction will likely to yeild no result.
** Normal Hero: 1 Point
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** Legendary Hero: 3 Points
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: One of the popular guesses is that there are something between the Fame and the number of nobles adding to the bounty. I hold this to be unlikely as well, because contrary to what is stated on the bounty board that all additions are anonymous, this will require a few more hidden variables attached with the bounty to do the checks on this Fame. And if this Fame was not there as early as the bounty board function was implemented, this might cause some problems. More importantly, it is my own belief that all of the Fame points are checking on some parameters that can be viewed by the players as well, hence the above guess has basically violated this belief of mine.
*** Normal/Legendary: [[Fame/Careful Research/Heroic Death Research|Heroic Death Research]]
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: The assumption that this Fame is related with the amount of gold in a single addition you make is also an extension of such belief. It sounds logical, is something the Fame trigger can check on without attaching more hidden variables, and is something the player can see.
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: I am able to tell that if this is really it, it is a value higher than 150 gold.
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* Infiltrator Career Fame
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:; Source
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: From one of Tom's hints in [[Fame#Hints|Fame]] page and [[Lemon Fame 2#Avenues of Investigation|Lemon Fame]].
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:; Guess
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: Banned by how many realms.
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 +
:; Deduction
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: Use your common sense.
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* Skill(s) Fame
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:; Source
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: From one of Tom's hints in [[Fame#Details Lacking|Fame]] page and [[Lemon Fame 2#Shadows guesses mk2|Lemon Fame]].
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:; Guess
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: Well, in fact we are almost sure that the threshold indicating "exceptional" is at 50%. What we don't know is that whether all eight skills currently inside the game stand for their own independent Fame point or share over one single point.
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:; Deduction
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: Perhaps only one. Or perhaps eight.
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* Marshal Fame
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:; Source
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: From one of Tom's hints in [[Fame#Hints|Fame]] page and [[Lemon Fame 2#Leading forces in Battle.3F|Lemon Fame]].
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:; Guess
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: A battle huge enough, perhaps the using of marshal staff is required.
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:; Deduction
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: Too little is known to make any useful deductions. It's placed here simply because it is more than plausible. Doesn't mean we know more about it.
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==Plausible==
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* Trader Fame
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:; Source
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: From one of Tom's hints in [[Fame#Hints|Fame]] page.
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:; Guess
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: Ending Starvation without Profit.
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:; Deduction
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: Reported by [http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-October/017380.html Gloria Santos]. Sounds plausible, but perhaps a little bit too easy? Shouldn't be hard to varify if you have a trader character.
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* Religion Fame
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:; Source
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: From one of Tom's hints in [[Fame#Details Lacking|Fame]] page and [[Lemon Fame 2#Avenues of Investigation|Lemon Fame]].
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:; Guess
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: [[User:Loren|Loren]] suggested it has something to do with either the combined sizes of all temples, or the declaration of a state religion, or perhaps both.
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:; Deduction
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: Sounds plausible, but seems not easy to be verified.
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==In Research==
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* Legendary Hero
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: See: [[Fame/Careful Research/Heroic Death Research|Heroic Death Research]]
  
 
==Busted==
 
==Busted==
 
* Holding Three Lordships
 
* Holding Three Lordships
** 0 Day (2006.11.19)
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: 0<sup>th</sup> Day (2006.11.19)
 
* Family Honour
 
* Family Honour
** 268 Honour (2006.11.22)
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: 268 Honour (2006.11.22)
 
* Days in Realm
 
* Days in Realm
** 462 Days (2006.11.22)
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: 462 Days (2006.11.22)
 
* Moving Family Mansion
 
* Moving Family Mansion
** (2006.11.19)
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: (2006.11.19)
* [[Bounty]]
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* Bounty Sum
** 1000 gold (2006.12.07)
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: 1000 gold (2006.12.07)

Revision as of 00:09, 18 December 2006

Highlight

  • Bounty Fame
Source
From one of Tom's hints in Lemon Fame.
Guess
Related with the amount of gold be put up within a single addition.
Deduction
It seems safe to assume that there is no Fame for the sheer size of the bounty, at least not solely depend on which. We know that the highest bounty ever is 1550 gold. We know from Tom's hints that this Bounty Fame has been collected by some. I have a character with a bounty of 1000 gold but there is no Fame for this. So unless a trigger was set for a bounty beyond 1000 gold, which seems very unlikely to me, continuing the search towards this direction will likely to yeild no result.
One of the popular guesses is that there are something between the Fame and the number of nobles adding to the bounty. I hold this to be unlikely as well, because contrary to what is stated on the bounty board that all additions are anonymous, this will require a few more hidden variables attached with the bounty to do the checks on this Fame. And if this Fame was not there as early as the bounty board function was implemented, this might cause some problems. More importantly, it is my own belief that all of the Fame points are checking on some parameters that can be viewed by the players as well, hence the above guess has basically violated this belief of mine.
The assumption that this Fame is related with the amount of gold in a single addition you make is also an extension of such belief. It sounds logical, is something the Fame trigger can check on without attaching more hidden variables, and is something the player can see.
I am able to tell that if this is really it, it is a value higher than 150 gold.


  • Infiltrator Career Fame
Source
From one of Tom's hints in Fame page and Lemon Fame.
Guess
Banned by how many realms.
Deduction
Use your common sense.


  • Skill(s) Fame
Source
From one of Tom's hints in Fame page and Lemon Fame.
Guess
Well, in fact we are almost sure that the threshold indicating "exceptional" is at 50%. What we don't know is that whether all eight skills currently inside the game stand for their own independent Fame point or share over one single point.
Deduction
Perhaps only one. Or perhaps eight.


  • Marshal Fame
Source
From one of Tom's hints in Fame page and Lemon Fame.
Guess
A battle huge enough, perhaps the using of marshal staff is required.
Deduction
Too little is known to make any useful deductions. It's placed here simply because it is more than plausible. Doesn't mean we know more about it.

Plausible

  • Trader Fame
Source
From one of Tom's hints in Fame page.
Guess
Ending Starvation without Profit.
Deduction
Reported by Gloria Santos. Sounds plausible, but perhaps a little bit too easy? Shouldn't be hard to varify if you have a trader character.
  • Religion Fame
Source
From one of Tom's hints in Fame page and Lemon Fame.
Guess
Loren suggested it has something to do with either the combined sizes of all temples, or the declaration of a state religion, or perhaps both.
Deduction
Sounds plausible, but seems not easy to be verified.

In Research

  • Legendary Hero
See: Heroic Death Research

Busted

  • Holding Three Lordships
0th Day (2006.11.19)
  • Family Honour
268 Honour (2006.11.22)
  • Days in Realm
462 Days (2006.11.22)
  • Moving Family Mansion
(2006.11.19)
  • Bounty Sum
1000 gold (2006.12.07)