Talk:Toren (SEI)/Toren Victory Party

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You'd need to find the path to victory before you can think of straying from it. -Sennianus the Mad Andrasta 15:00, 9 April 2007 (CEST)

Uncalled for. This is just you being an idiot. You have IC knowledge of deep Toren politics? Thought not. George the Hippy 17:45, 9 April 2007 (CEST)
I don't need knowledge of Toren politics. All I need to do is look at the battle reports and the history of SEI over the past few months. Toren has won maybe one in seven major battles, and has made no gains whatsoever. Even with big brother Ikalak pulling attention away from you, you're still completely incapable of doing damage other than petty looting. -Sennianus the Mad Andrasta 17:57, 9 April 2007 (CEST)
You're dodging the question... this is jsut a thing for you to bash Toren. Honestly, get a hobby! George the Hippy 17:59, 9 April 2007 (CEST)
Of course it's just to bash Toren. Why? Because it's fun, and I have plenty of ammunition. And how am I dodging the question, when I wasn't even touching the subject of Toren politics? I don't have knowledge of you politics, other than the fact that your appointed military leaders are apparently unable to gain any significant victories, even with a 40,000 CS army on your side, against an outnumbered and outgunned enemy. That's all the knowledge I need to be able to point and laugh. -Sennianus the Mad Andrasta 18:04, 9 April 2007 (CEST)
Then you prove yourself no better than a young child. Thusly, I have no more dealings with you! Stop being a prick. George the Hippy 18:08, 9 April 2007 (CEST)
I will do no such thing. My virtues in life are battle, drinking, and laughing at pathetic Toren whiners who boast greatness but can't back it up with actions. It's called 'bragging rights'. Win a battle, and maybe you'll experience them yourself. Until then... Bwahahahaha!!! -Sennianus the Mad Andrasta 18:20, 9 April 2007 (CEST)


Just as an ooc comment, saying that this party is committed to victory is not saying much...all realms on SEI should be committed to victory, and any political parties should hence be so committed or else they'll have little chance of gaining power. A better statement would be how you would attain this victory. I assume from the phrase "staying our course" that what is meant is maintaining the treaty with Ikalak. Perhaps you may wish to elaborate on how you will win against Ikalak after having defeated Taselak. --RubyDragon 17:19, 9 April 2007 (CEST)

We can't just divulge our deep secrets can we? George the Hippy 17:45, 9 April 2007 (CEST)

Comedy

I find it comical that you find the need to establish a completely OOC group of players and publish it, then insist that everyone remember it is OOC. Obviously, you feel an IC need for this OOC group - to respond to the Toren Reform Party. I wonder why you published it at all, if you don't want anyone to know about it. --Habap 17:52, 9 April 2007 (CEST)

It's secret for now. I just expect that we can all be mature enough to not go spilling these things. George the Hippy 17:59, 9 April 2007 (CEST)
Maturity? --Habap 18:09, 9 April 2007 (CEST)
Yes... Maturity. Now, I may not always be the most mature of fellows, but I know my place. And most of my immaturity is IC. (KARIBASH GUN STOMP ON YO HEAD!) But I expect we can keep OOC things away from IC things... we aren't 5 year olds are we? George the Hippy 18:13, 9 April 2007 (CEST)
It is often difficult to tell. --Habap 18:24, 9 April 2007 (CEST)
Perhaps. Sometimes it is. I'll strive to make my IC immaturity more striking :) George the Hippy 18:29, 9 April 2007 (CEST)
I was under the impression that anything posted on the wiki without an ooc notice saying that it is ooc, is assumed to be knowledge available to the character of whichever player reads it. In any case, I'm afraid your notice was too late, the knowledge of this party has already spread throughout Taselak at the speed of gossip. --RubyDragon 18:56, 9 April 2007 (CEST)
Yes, it seems my notice is too late. Please ask that everyone respect it though. I was pondering if I should put a notice for too long. George the Hippy 21:24, 9 April 2007 (CEST)
I can only imagine the challenge of making Karibash seem even more immature. --Habap 23:14, 9 April 2007 (CEST)

Why post a secret?

If it's supposed to be such a secret that only the three members know it exists, why post it? Are you hoping to influence the players of Toren characters into believing that someone has faith in the current government? If so, that sounds like you trying to OOC influence IC actions of other players. That seems to contradict the OOC notice. --Habap 23:13, 9 April 2007 (CEST)

Since it doesn't exist

The recent article in the Taselak (SEI)/Tribune/6th Edition mentions the Toren Reform Party and notes that no such pro-government group exists. --Habap 17:48, 10 April 2007 (CEST)

Alright, that's fine by me! George the Hippy 21:58, 10 April 2007 (CEST)

With the notice gone

Does that mean that the existence of this three-person political party is now known to others? --Habap 00:01, 12 April 2007 (CEST)

Yes. And it's three people becuase Karibash was wounded and couldn't announce it's opening.
Actually, per Averyll's statement, she is a member of NO political parties, including this one. --Habap 15:36, 16 April 2007 (CEST)