Fear of Avamar/Discussion

Letter from Handow (23 hours, 20 minutes ago)
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Pontifex Indira,

Are you speaking for KI or your realm? I see that KI is a Democracy but your realm is a Theocracy. Not sure why you state that your crime is from being a Democracy when you are not.

One concern I have is that Avamar Selective is flying the old "Black Hand" flag. There are many that don't like seeing that "Black Hand" symbol because of the harm they did in the past.

Sir Handow
Prime Minister of Sirion

Letter from Dekion (21 hours, 46 minutes ago)
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Indira, as Handow already stated, your realm is not a democracy, it a theocracy. It is also an abomination realm that I will not let survive. I had a hand in destroying Avamar once before and I believe in my heart even the word Avamar is evil. I do not care that the plan to form your current realm went awry when One Rogala seceeded Kalmar City. That only goes to show the problems that "Avamar" can create.

Also you question my decision to possibly ask for allied help when Kalmar Islands is clearly helping Avamar to fight the war I declared on you. A bit hypocritcal is it not?

Do not worry though Indira, for soon you shall not have to worry about being Queen, your realm will be no more. I am a reasonable man when I am dealing with reasonable people. You were not even here when the nation of Kalmar was created. You were not here when the realm of Kalmar was forcibly TO and the rightful leaders were exiled from their homeland. You were not here when all the refugees came streaming out of the islands speaking of the atrocities that the rebel government completed. Since you were not here, do not speak to me about what you cannot know.

I have never broken my word when I was the High Marshal and now that I am King. I do not care if there is still only 1 living refugee from the original Kalmar Island nation, I shall fight for them and the word I have given them. I know that you don't understand, but that is because you were not here my dear lady. I was. I am sorry that you have new TL's in your realm who were never a part of the rebellion in Kalmar. But due to their choice to join your realm, they will soon need to find another home.

Your time is coming Indira, so prepare your people for soon Avamar Selective will be no more.

Sir Dekion King of Old Rancagua

Letter from Johnny (21 hours, 48 minutes ago)
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All in Old Rancagua are not confused or against it.. just a few, as there is always small opposition, and you know this. As well, Prometheus was put in place to try and restore peace, Indira, and to rule, as he did before. Monarchy was not the issue at that point. The people of Kalmar pushed him out, and Lalakis once again ruled.

Aside from ALL of that, Avamar was reborn. The name is a stain on the continent, and insulting to the nobles of this world.. or at least the ones that oppose your people. I am sorry, but I struggle to find validity in the text of your address. As a ruler, it must be trying to defend your people and maintain peace in wartime, and I commend you for that. I am just stating my humble opinion and attempting to further inform you.

Best of luck to you.

Johnny
High Marshal of Old Rancagua, Duke of Kazakh, Marshal of the army of Kazakh

Letter from Draxius (7 days, 12 hours ago)
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First point. the "Black hand" did nothing that was a couple of idiots that did stupid things. The "Black Hand" was nothing more than a scapegoat for the continent to become riled and paranoid. There is No "Black Hand" and there never was. It was just a delusion of an idiot.

Second Point. So the name Avamar is a stain on the continent? So you are saying culture like plays, poetry and Opera are evil. You are saying art like sculpture, paint, and clay are evil? You are saying that freedom of speach is evil? You are saying that wanting to live in a non opresed land is evil? (not saying that all of you are. just about what Avamar came from. West Sirion.) So maybe you should take your own advice here and not judge before you see.

Third Point. Prometeus was pushed out. No he wasn't he was voted out of position in a fair election. He still remains in Kalmar Islands surving those lands.

Fourth Point. After KI was taken over but El Cid Rogala he followed his words about banning and finning people just as he said he would. and just as he said people would be let back in after it was stabilized he did. he invited them all back and removed all the bans. I know that for a fact because i remeoved the bans myself after replacing Artanis the crazy judge.

Fifth Point. We may be a Theocracy in name but we are a Democracy in practice.

Sith Point. How dose the way One Rogala screwd up the scceding plans show the problems that "Avamar" can create?

Seventh Point. "You were not even here when the nation of Kalmar was created. You were not here when the realm of Kalmar was forcibly TO and the rightful leaders were exiled from their homeland. You were not here when all the refugees came streaming out of the islands speaking of the atrocities that the rebel government completed. Since you were not here, do not speak to me about what you cannot know." Well I was there. and well El Cid followed his word. Prometeus was let back in. As well as every one else was allowed to come back with no ill will towards them. no bans on them. And also Billy Bob Burbaker the former banker was still there the whole time. Things that happened were horubly over exagerated by the "refugees" of KI. And when we talked to you cilvily you rected in an uncivil manor. Demanding that we do what you wanted and only what you wanted.

Why Not negotiate? why not talk and learn about each other? Why not see if these lands can work together as allies once again instead of waring states? and bitter rivles. meny things can change if we just open up and talk. Instead of using blades. Maybe things would be better for all of the continent if we just lernt about eachother and put the past where it belongs. In the past.

Draxius (Knight of Alvaret)

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Prime Minister Handow,

i must admitt i find your message sort but very intresting,it includes 2 issues that i wanted to speak for my self as well.

First of all,isn t Avamar Selective a Theocracy?

Yes we are a Theocracy but before we come to that i need to tell you how this realm was created. Kalmar Islands is a Democracy,the current realm of Avamar Selective was part of Kalmar.Kalmar was attacked by OR back then when it was united because it wasn t a Monarchy.I know it sounds odd but it seems OR wanted to force Monarchy with warring it s child.We stood as one and we fought back and defended Stora several times.At a point the pressure was too much and even if Sir Prometheus ,former OR tl and chose by them to lead Kalmar as Monarch...but formed Chancellor of Kalmar,asked several times Peace by OR that never came.

As King Dekion knows from first hand since he had access to all the messages of Kalmar Islands,Kalmarians were very preoccupied for this war and in a desperate moment as i see it now,discussions came up as to why we were wared with such hatred.The reason was we weren t Monarchy. All the realm was united and lived happilly under Democracy but the deep love for our realm made us think if it would be better to split the realm.Several votings were made,we changed our minds several times on the matter and even if the result was positive towards the division,infornt of the war we stoped discussing it. One Rogala though,few days before his service as Duke should come to an end decided to play and secedeed Kalmar saying he did it based to the People's will and formed Avamar Selective.He chose this name in order to wake up the wrath of the old enemies of Avamar and the wrath of the Avamaraina as well ,as for them was a worse slap in the face to see a realm with their former realm's name emerge under Theocracy.... One Rogala created a new realm in order to kill it,he sent provoking messages to the rulers and all us that joined from Kalmar in order to stop his madness and overthown him,he treated us in the worst of the ways.I was banned with mark of atheist for example and many other tl s were banned and executed even. He burned down food,RS and led the innocent citizens to starvation and desperation.He decieved the Church and all the Priests that joined him thinking they would serve the Theocracy of Avamar Selective and did his best to bring this realm to it s knees and add another black page to his familly history.

One thing is sure.He achieved it.Everyone saw Avamar Selective as the rebirth of Avamar!Many also feared(and here we come to your second arguement) that Black Hand was behind it.And OR of course found a way to continue it s war.

The Kalmarians were shocked by this,many of them,including me joined the realm in order to serve it and with the help of the Cgurch as well we made it to overthown One and his puppets.

Avamar Selective is a Theocracy but has no religion.It has loyal tl s and citizens that need faith ,that would give their lives for their realm and tl s that try to restore peace in this land that suffered so much.We are people that have one thing in common very similar to faith,trust and respect for the people s will and for Democracy since we come from one.We coexist with the Church though,we revived it s help to restore inner peace and we have no intentions to fight it but to cooperate with it. The Church knows that faith to Gods can t be forced as we know that we cannot punish the Church for Rogala's mistake.We have no religion yet.We have no identity yet,we try to create one and this is why we seek Peace.We need to help our People that suffered too much either when they were part of Kalmar by the army of OR and now by Rogala's madness.

Black Hand doesn t exist and has nothing to do with us.I can assure you that.I cannot say of course that Avamar doesn t exist.Avamar exists in the heart of all Avamarians around this Continent that saw their realm die and that their love for it will end only when dead.And that is remarkable but it s within their hearts.This isn t the Old Avamar,and those that are old Avamarians and are now here are as well former Kalmarians that offered too much to the Colony.

We are not a threat to anyone any strategician can confirm that,we don t want to create problems we seek peace in order to restore everything in this realm and give it a life again.

And this is why i asked a short term cease fire ,in order to give us time to rebuild the realm that was crushed by Rogala,help it s People that are scared,innocent lives that suffer looting and death and give eveyrthing we have to make it arise.We as well accept everyone to visit us and see for himself we mean to do no harm ,we don t want to destroy we want to create.

Report from Indira (6 days, 20 hours ago)
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Letter from Dekion (2 days, 17 hours ago)
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I look at your realm as an abomination. A realm that should not even be in existence. I shall do my utmost to make sure that it does not survive much longer. My ultimate goal is to restore the monarchy back to a unified Kalmar Islands nation. As it once was when Perdan and Old ancagua created it. Not the mockery of what it is now.

Letter from Dekion (1 day, 15 hours ago)

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Indira, as Handow already stated, your realm is not a democracy, it a theocracy. It is also an abomination realm that I will not let survive. I had a hand in destroying Avamar once before and I believe in my heart even the word Avamar is evil. I do not care that the plan to form your current realm went awry when One Rogala seceeded Kalmar City. That only goes to show the problems that "Avamar" can create.

Sir Dekion i am sure you can as well see how similar your messages are.

abomination,we won t let you survive....

That shows that King Dekion you have a very poor and weak arguementation i m afraid.

You say Avamar exists because the name is Avamar Selective?Does Racangua exists because your realm is called Old Racnagua?

King Dekion are you fighting a name or a realm?Cuase you surelly claim lives from a realm in the name of...a name...

And this is why your arguementation is poor.You judged us and punished us without proofs and without reasoning.

I will repeat you that i am not here to exchange insults and threats,they have nothing productive in them so i refuse to use them.

Also i would suggest you to stop threating me and my People.Your threats cannot crach the spirit of Avamar Selective.

Also i never mentioned about you seeking allies in this war but i can understand from what you said that you do because we use the help of Kalmar.

Well it is your fault if you created a so United Colony that is willing to protects it s former land.You seek allies in a war against a realm that is 4 times smaller than you....

And to answer something to your General.

Prometheus was NEVER pushed to step down.He steped aside from the elctions and chose not to run in the elections by refusing the position of Chancellor and you can ask him that. On the contrary he recieved respect and the votes of Kalmarians but he chose not to run again.

Sometimes it s not the people that force us to step down but our own actions...

Forced to step down would be if he was prtested,attacked or anything like that but i m afraid it was his decision to not run for Chancellor.

You wared Kalakr Islands because they are a Democracy.You want to force Monarchy in them when we repeatedly asked you Peace.You would feel more secure if it was a Monarchy and i honestly don t see why.

What would happen if the Monarch,that as iunderstand would be chosen by you,decided to step aside and someone else recieved his position that you didn t liked or trust?Would you war the realm again?Or would you ban the half of the realm that so far protects it in order to feel secure?

Can t you see that you are attacking a non existing enemy?We ask you Peace King Dekion and i kinndly request you to reconsider before you kill your own child.

Indira
Pontifex of Avamar Selective