Talk:Torenism

Has this actually been founded? -Chénier 23:05, 18 March 2008 (CET)

What is it with you people, do all your RPs need to be pre-determined...? -Chénier 04:33, 19 March 2008 (CET)

How do you know what has or hasn't been roleplayed yet? Just because a wiki page is created doesn't mean that is exactly how things will play out in game. It has no impact in the actual game, nobody has to follow it and it may never happen. -Pbooth

What the hell is it to you? We've had people working on RPs for theology surrounding the god Tor for about two years now, and we're finally putting all of the past RP we've done on the subject together in one spot in preparation for finally founding the religion itself. "You people"? What the f*&% is that supposed to mean? Christ, this game's wiki is seriously devoid of any real, well written content - you'd think when somebody devotes hours upon hours upon hours to trying to write up a comprehensive article, you might say "cool" rather than bark about it, and ask "hey, is this all original RP, or are you just bringing in past RPs into an article" rather tahn sneer at usabout "pre-writing RP" or whatever. The religion will probably be founded in about a week or so - so really, what do you care? Why don't you actually work on the Springdale page (which contains absolutely 100% NOTHING) instead of coming over here and yapping about how we put together content on our realm, our religion, and what have you. Good god... Arylon 07:20, 19 March 2008 (CET)

It is good, well-written stuff. So long as the "...work of fiction ..." tag stays there until the religion is actually founded, I personally don't have a problem with it. Yeah, it's a bit pre-determined, but that's better than completely devoid of all semblance of RP, like a lot of religions. --Indirik 23:04, 19 March 2008 (CET)

Except they don't put the tag until someone asks them to. You read these articles, and god, they look like the most advanced thing on the continent, and the "fiction" tag wasn't there 'till I asked about it. You think something impressive was achieved, but in the end, it doesn't even exist. Writing up a religion is fine, saying it has thousands of followers, tons of temples, and a huge spread when it hasn't even been founded isn't. -Chénier 06:31, 20 March 2008 (CET)

Sure, it's well done, I'll give you that if that's what you want. As with your Everguard page, it's really the infobox which is a pain and holds the false info. -Chénier 06:34, 20 March 2008 (CET)

Even if there are some inaccuracies they will be corrected later. It really doesn't effect anything as it's not a part of the game, just some writing about the realm. In any event, it's much better than the Springsdale page which hasn't been worked on at all. Perhaps you'd be better spending your time working on it than critiquing this? Of course I found "yay a big city!" describing the capital of Springsdale to be quite enlightening.

Urgh, those perfectly represents what Tom doesn't like about region pages... Useless info that becomes out of date very rapidly and which nobody cares about. -Chénier 03:54, 21 March 2008 (CET)

Why Torenism? Torism sound lot better, after all its worship of the god, not the realm. Nice Page. Ceorl 11:29, 28 March 2008 (CET)

We were looking for a better name than Torenism - but Torism is just too clumsy, Torenism has a better flow... I honestly have no desire to insert more than passing mentions of Toren... it just sounded better when it was spoken to me... I don't know... I wish I could come up with something cooler, but in the interest of actually building the religion, I just went with it. Arylon 18:05, 28 March 2008 (CET)

Disrespectful Religious Content Removed

Disrespectful religious images were removed on 05-29-08. The temple image is the well recognized LDS Temple in Salt Lake City Utah (belonging to The Church of Jesus Christ of Later-Day Saints). This building has great historic and religious value to millions of people worldwide. Furthermore, the image is likely copyrighted (and this does not constitute fair use). The book image is assumed to be a Bible, Koran, Talmud, or other real religious work. The parchment image titled “Directives of Toren Mountain” is probably the Dead Sea Scrolls or some other ancient religious text. It should probably be removed on the same grounds.

The images on this page were obviously taken from a variety of web pages. This was clearly an attempt to create a page with content using minimal effort. All of them undoubtedly have copyright of some form or another which are being violated. Usually, copyright owners will never know, but that is no excuse for the illegal copying.

While made-up game religions are not inherently insulting, one must be careful not to involve real religions.
I assume that this mistake was made out of flagrant carelessness, and not out of malice.