Talk:Itorunt Informer/April '06

Oh you dirty thieving sons of small woodland creatures! You stole our periodical setup! Well, I cant blame you for copying your betters! Vellos 1 April 2006 01:03 (CEST)

Actually, we got this off of Sirions failed paper. Which is presumably where you nicked yours from anyways. Watch us get more views now! --The1exile 1 April 2006 01:06 (CEST)

Oh now this is laughable! A haiku! I believe we mentioned something about "real poetry"! (OOC- Actually, I happen to like haikus, but Hireshmont doesnt, lol) Vellos 1 April 2006 16:50 (CEST)

I have added the small article mentioning our agreement to the IJARG. --The1exile 1 April 2006 22:37 (CEST)

You Itorunt Informing Idiots! This is no Cease Fire! This is just to stop spamming our newpapers [sic] !--Twinblade 1 April 2006 22:53 (CEST)

Oh really? What do you call stopping writing articles for the sake of taking the mick out of other papers then? I call it a ceasefire, but not peace. I added a [sic] tag to you misspelling here by the way, my discuss page, my privilege. --The1exile 2 April 2006 12:28 (CEST)

Its not a cease fire, merely an agreement on what weapons are legal(OOC- lol, no WMDs! :D )Vellos 2 April 2006 17:57 (CEST)

Where do you come up with this stuff?

Skirmish in Al Aquabah? Perdanese becoming more stupid?

Honestly, where do you come up with this stuff? When Ito and Ibby armies abandoned Al Aquabah, leaving behind 9 TLs to get slaughtered by the Perdanese and Ubent armies, resulting over well over 200 Ito/Ibby deaths accompanied by practically no Perdanese/Ubent deaths, we didn't mount personal attacks calling you stupid. When you did it again the very next turn, leaving 4 TLs behind in Ar Raqqah, resulting in around 60 or 70 deaths, we didn't mount personal attacks. When three Perdan nobles miss the turn and get caught by an invading army that wasn't there the turn before, you call them idiots. Is this what it's come down to? Should I go back through my history and post al the Ibby/Ito TLs that have suicided into our armies for the past month?

Running newspapers for opposing realms, and providing alternate viewpoints for the events is fun, and interesting. It can provide a lot of entertainment. Loading it up with insults and ad hominem attacks takes the fun out of it. Where's the mutual respect for other players?

--Indirik 4 April 2006 01:10 (CEST) (Sig added retroactively.... forgot to add it earlier)

Oh, loosen up a bit. Its just creative reporting. (OOC- I dont think they were insulting other players, but characters. Newspapers are IC, not OOC) Vellos 4 April 2006 00:52 (CEST)

Plus theres not really anything wrong with insulting the other realms in your own newspaper anyway. Though this story would probably be more interesting if they included the sticky ends the Perdanese troops came to when they were brutally bludgeoned to death. Then you could comment on how their hollowed out skulls make for good candle stick holders and other overpriced ornaments hehe. Now thats news hehe - Revan

Of course they're IC. And obviously some propaganda is to be expected. But when you start insulting people in such a childish manner... (Perdanese becoming more stupid?)... I suppose that your IJARG prohibition on the writing "...of any articles specifically dedicated to the insulting or "bashing" of any other paper..." doesn't carry over to talking about other realm's players.

--Indirik 4 April 2006 01:10 (CEST)

Good point. To comply with IJARG regulations, the article title probably should be "Skirmish in Al Aquabbah?" or whatever. The in-article dissing is all right, so long as there is clearly another purpose to the article: Discussing/reporting on the skirmish in Al Aquabbah. So, to comply with IJARG regulations, I would STRONGLY RECOMEND changing the title to "Skirmish in AL Aquabbah". Vellos 4 April 2006 03:29 (CEST)

Ok, I'll change the name on one condition, you go yell at Talless for what she writes first. Besides, If your problem is with the insult being childish then I'm sure I could come up with a more elabrate one, but if you'll excuse me, i'm going to draft on insulting Ubent now... OOC: I wasn't insulting other players, but when enemy troop leaders are insulted in game and called stupid I should have the right to publish it in the realms newspaper, as an IC insult. --The1exile 4 April 2006 17:43 (CEST)

It isnt a problem of insulting IN THE ARTICLE, actually. Thats legit, because you clearly HAVE another purpose to the article. Its just the title. Vellos 4 April 2006 17:57 (CEST)

I stil say you should yell at twinblade first, but I will change the title. Busy now though, Caligus bashing to do! --The1exile 4 April 2006 18:12 (CEST)

Since the signing of IJARG, the Caligan Courier has not produced any articles, as far as I know. Its possible I'm wrong. Once they start coming out, we will watch them too. Vellos 4 April 2006 18:53 (CEST)

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You have Violated IJARG! The Caligan Tactic Disaster is an article that does nothing but insult us. You are the Itorunt Informer, keep Itorunts news not ours. I dont go around writing articles on your losses and calling you stupid! --Twinblade 11 April 2006 17:43 (CEST)

Excuse, me where have I violated the terms of the IJARG?

"IJARG papers are committed to not writing, or sponsoring the writing, of any articles specifically dedicated to the insulting or "bashing" of any other paper, IJARG, OCPAU, or otherwise."

My original beef was that you insulted Yssaria, our ally, now I defend them by glorifying your losses to them. Unfortunately, they seem to be having to much fun beating you to respond, so I have one Informer who is heading north with them, and then the whispers of the shadows. We report news on the east continent, with the knowledge from Itorunt, the most peace-loving realm on the whole Island. It may insult your realm, but not your paper directly. the article is CLEARLY about your realms ineptitude.

News will be coming soon on Perdans troops soon to be smashed.--The1exile 11 April 2006 21:09 (CEST)
P.S. On the off chance that Tom or anyone else thinks I'm a wannabe lawyer and get the urge to lightning one of my characters, this dodging round the terms of the agreement is purely IC.

I see no violation of IJARG principles. That article was about a Caligusian defeat, and may have mocked Caligus, but was not specifically centered around the mockery, but around Caligus' defeat. We never said we would stop bashing each other, just that we'd stop having articles specifically dedicated to doing so. Its not a super restrictive treaty, its a pretty broad guideline, and, when I first drafted it, was intended that way. If we would like to revise it, post proposed revisions on the IJARG discussion page, and they'll be reviewed by all signers available, and may or may not be added to the terms of agreement, at which point all signers are welcome to reconsidering their sponsorship of IJARG. Vellos 11 April 2006 22:56 (CEST)

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Since I can't publish this in the article, I will do it here: Hah! The inept Perdanese never stood a chance! We rule, we rule, we rule, bye-bye PMW!

More mockery will follow, both published and unpublished. --The1exile 12 April 2006 20:10 (CEST)

They aren't finished yet, theres still plenty of fight in the PMW. --Blackknight 12 April 2006 20:42 (CEST)

Pfeh, when PMW promises to tell us next time so we don't fight them? It seems to me to be a tactic to say "Please don't fight us". If you take my advice, run and hide, before the main army comes to clean house. Of course, Yssaria might have an issue wth you coming to fight them...--The1exile 12 April 2006 22:08 (CEST)

Hmm, it seems Perdan's honor only extends so far as convenience allows. - Thray Walsh

Hey, have you guys seen your king lately? I hope nothing has happened to him. --Indirik 13 April 2006 19:19 (CEST)

Oh, and by the way, nice surprise attack on the Mines of Isadril. That was positively brilliant! I bet no one saw that attack coming. You must have completely blindsided them. The way you guys support your Ibladeshian allies is incredible. --Indirik 13 April 2006 19:28 (CEST)

Ah, TK doesn't do much anyways, I know he's wounded. PMW is soon to be removed from Aeng, and the mines are going to be TO'd by Ibladesh any time now. Thanks for the compliment about the attack there being positively brilliant, now is PMW would just get their arrogant arses in gear then we can start to conentrate on our designs for a big fire-hose for Ibladesh city. --The1exile 13 April 2006 19:57 (CEST)

That sure is confident of you, after sending your armies on a wild goose chase and your ally risking its capital to kill a few militia troops in the Mines. As for the fire-hose, I don't think there will be much left here capable of burning when I'm done. However, your welcome to bring it if you'd like. My men could use something to get more Black & Tan to the front lines. This southern ale is horrible, what is it, 1% alcohol? We prefer 70% when on campaigns (to keep the men sober) and just drink it straight back home. :-) --Blackknight 13 April 2006 21:01 (CEST)

What wild goose chase? PMW was hit by our rearguard, and beaten. The fire-hose is for crowd control (OOC: I prefer masers, but they haven't been invented yet) since your troops is an illiterate mob that can't walk in a straight line. "A few militia" defend 40% of Ubents gold? And as for the alchohol, you should speak to my co-editor, since he runs ARSE. --The1exile 13 April 2006 22:32 (CEST)

I take great offence at my alcohol being called dilluted! Next time you find dilluted alcohol in any ARSE shops, I give you permission to off the brewer. That goes to anyone in any realm. ARSE has, does and will continue to offer the purest alcoholic beer there is if thats your style. We also offer many varieties, such as rums, whiskeys, wines, ales, vodka, tequila, gin, scotch, margaritas and more. We have even, in rare circumstances, imported alcohol from outside the continent. Aurum, Bishamon Family April 13, 2006 22:50 (CEST)

Yssaria, if you are a peaceful realm, why do you continue aggressions against Caligus? Later on, in the same message you declare that you will not take kindly to a noble with family in Caligus or Perdan? What a peaceful realm indeed. - I don't think you read the text correctly. It says that the Yssarian peasants desired peace. As long as Yssarian armies are in Caligus the homelands are peaceful, because the war is on foreign soil. Also, the TLs who have families in Caligus or Perdan could be a threat to the inner stability of the realm, which could eventually result in a civil war. How peaceful is that? Nylen 14 April 2006 00:55 (CEST)

That's Aurum's piece, but I think the point is that its not expressed very well. --The1exile 14 April 2006 01:03 (CEST)

You know whats interesting, the Mines are still at 100% morale, loyalty, and production. That must have been some attack. Even if you did damage, I doubt it would compare to the nearly 2000 gold coins missing from the vaults of Ibladesh, not to mention the burnt food and the damaged walls. As for Alcohol, I've never heard of ARSE...is it some sort of copy of the famous SASDA? --Blackknight 14 April 2006 03:34 (CEST)

SASDA? What in the nine hells is that? ARSE is the Alchohol Refinery and Sales Emporium, I believe I heard Kagurati mention a SADA, but that is different. --The1exile 14 April 2006 04:30 (CEST) I meant SADA, typo :-) --Blackknight 14 April 2006 05:28 (CEST)

I would like to retract my statement about offing my employees. I was angry at the time. Please report them to me instead. --Aurum Bishamon Family April 15, 2006 07:10 (CEST)

Elven lifespan

Calculations are courtsey of me, Hireshmont and Folite on IRC. --The1exile 15 April 2006 06:23 (CEST)

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I would appreciate it if you would report your own news in your own realm. Want to report ours, then go to Yssaria and make them a newspaper. You dont hear me reporting news down south, though if you want to i will gladly do so....--Twinblade 20 April 2006 14:20 (CEST)

Believe it or not, we report news on all the continent, thats why we covered the KI rebellion, and history of the Hand of Wisdom/Black Hand thing. It's a paper based in Itorunt, and we report the news of the continent. It's your choice whether you publish news about us. Besides, you don't publish your losses, someone has to... --The1exile 20 April 2006 15:06 (CEST)

Thats interesting, the Itorunt Informer doesn't publish losses from Itorunt or Ibladesh... --Blackknight 20 April 2006 16:33 (CEST)

Don't you think that's logical? 90% of succesful propaganda is not letting your people find out about your losses. Which is usually done by reporting the losses from the enemy. Marouane 20 April 2006 16:56 (CEST)