Talk:Dwilight/Geographic Features

General

I invite anyone and everyone to edit this. Only criteria: IF there is a source, use it. Good sources are region descriptions of nearby regions, existing data linked to from the Dwilight page concerning geography and culture, realm pages, etc. If and only if no name can be found, make one up. If there are multiple names, use your discretion. Pick one, or note both. The lack of formalized geography has always bothered me, especially in a place as big as Dwilight. It'd be great to see some geography getting formed. Please, no REGIONAL geography. No one-region geographic features. Don't point out the "mountain range" with one region. A look at the map reveals 2, maybe 3, mountain ranges: around Balance's Retreat, Chrysantylys, possibly Via. Rivers I think need names, large plains areas... I'd like this page to be a fairly basic list with links to more in-depth explanations. Vellos 22:24, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Do we want to use the in-game named weather areas as a basis for building this up? For instance, I know in Pian en Luries, the two weather types are East Pastureland and South Mediterranean. Would these fit in with that plan and idea? Silverfire 01:59, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, weather regions would also be good. However, they are a bit bland. They can be good starters, but should not be the end-all-beat-all as geography is only partially climatic. Vellos 03:03, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

This is indeed a great initiative especially for a continent like Dwilight. However, in my opinion, the rivers, mountains, lakes and possibly even seas ought to be given names by the game developers after which the river, mountains, lake and sea names would be displayed on the map, and this has been a feature requests I've been meaning to submit for a while now. It offers a lot of role playing potential and would be more widely spread and accepted by the community, as sadly, not all see wiki as a part of the game and thus don't care for it. --Gryphon 12:06, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Map changes of that sort are, as far as I'm aware, rather difficult. However, whatever the case, it surely can't hurt to begin proposing names. If they don't get taken up, so be it: they'll change later. There will be multiple place-names: Japan vs. Nippon. We'll have competing geographies, which I find quite appealing. Vellos 21:37, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

This is a great idea, and I have been trying to do something like this for a while. Would the things decided here go onto the "Major Cultural and Geographical Features" list on the main page? D.west.ton 17:31, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

I am aware of your geographical work, and I am intentionally trying to use as much of it as I can. The way I see it, "Major Cultural..." would link directly to this page, and the other features, like "The Far West" or what have you, would be linked to from this page. Vellos 00:19, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Technical

For those wondering, I am classifying an "island" as being a landmass dominated by only one realm. Hence why "Madina" is an island, while "Forland" is classified as its own fully independent body: because it is possible for there to be a trans-national Forlandish culture and millieu, but not a Madinan or Libizeddan one. Those would inherently be subnational or regional identities, being transnational only insofar as they move outside of obvious geological boundaries. Vellos 22:05, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Also, I've been considering the issue of sub-regions for some time. Example: "The Far West" has been pretty clearly delineated by D.west.ton at Dwilight/The Far West. However, this large region has issues: why is the Via range included in the Far West and not in whatever we call the plains above it that compose Caerwyn? What do we do of regions like the forest between Terran and Caerwyn, where part of it is in the Far West, but not all of it? I will be resolving this issue by limiting use of sub-regions. So, for example, I have broken up the regions, currently, by lines that purely reflect obvious map distinctions: rivers, coasts, forests, mountains. All of them are internally type-consistent. For larger regions (prime example being the Far West) that include multiple regions, we will not be listing them as above other regions, but rather as a separate category of "Domains". I would like a better term than "Domains," but that's what I have for now. A domain could be defined as a demarcation of land or area including all or part of multiple "map-based" regions, especially regions of different map-type. Domains will, as I said, be listed separately; like a type of region (waterways, forests, plains, other, domains....). I hope this helps clarify things. Vellos 00:19, 21 February 2010 (UTC)