Talk:Atamaran Advocate/Issue 1

Morale Management

"ASI decided to come and gain the region of Sullenport, Rogeshore and Byblack while we were defending Stargard at the very walls. You can read more about this in the vault of knowledge."

This is cheap propaganda. The regions of Byblack+Rogeshore were taken by RedSpan when ASI + Abington fought a war...ASI gained these regions from Tara LONG AGO. ASI agreed to release Sullenport to RedSpan as a gift before the Abby+ASI war started as an INVESTMENT in future relations...at which point RedSpan got greedy and decided that she would take a few regions from ASI (Rogeshore+Byblack) when she saw an opportunity to strike an ASI that was ALREADY fighting a juggernaut: Abington. After the Abby+ASI war ended, ASI got the regions back diplomatically...without spilling a SINGLE drop of RedSpan, with the condition, that ASI would return the lands after we got the Islands back...which we later did, and as promised, we returned Byblack AND Sullenport. Rogeshore was never in ANY agreement, and prior Kings ALL signed complete border recognitions as they were with ASI at the time. In fact, Abington swore to respect ASI's regions as her own when the war ended, and those said regions INCLUDED Rogeshore. This is a silly attack on RedSpan's part, and if it isn't recalled, relations will probably be extraordinarily soured. We have given RedSpan SEVERAL chances to play diplomatically in the past, and if we get burned AGAIN this time, God knows that I'll be personally fed up with RedSpan's contant political shennanigins. Ungrateful goats never had to fight for her lands...either ASI or Abington did the fighting. Maybe that is why they don't respect treaties or diplomacy...but they had better learn to quickly before others get pissed off at this bull and deliver a good dose of commupence. Doc's Revenge

It was nice, wasn't it - getting back those islands - based on the fighting of Darka, Minas Ithil, Talerium? Sure, go ahead and pat yourself on the back for "fighting for your lands" by manipulating others. Perhaps you could pay Darka some more to give Redspan their "commupence." That way ASI, as usual, doesn't have to get their gloves dirty. Isn't that the way of things, O former king? House Olik 19:07, 7 March 2007 (CET)

Actually, the RedSpanners themselves fought extremely hard during the Darka invasion, despite being severely outnumbered. Thus being vastly outnumbered, they weren't victorious alone... But managed to cause heavy causualties to the invaders before Abington backup arrived. To the best of my knowledge, RedSpan only wants Rogeshore back to... 1)Restore "Da Highway". Going AROUND Rogeshore is a huge pain, and a complete waste of time (OOC: hours/turns). 2) Prevent more attacks on our priests by followers of ASI's faith. Last I checked, ASI had not chosen a correspondant for the paper, and we happily welcome anyone who would wish to do so. Also, the quote you addressed was just that, a quote, and does not reflect the views of the paper. -- Fade

"Da Goat vs The Serpænt" + Morale Management

I think there is a clear RedSpan bias in these two articles. Praising the efforts of RedSpaniard priests, implying that Magna Serpaensism is an aggressive and hostile faith and then including King Tony's propaganda. Are we supposed to be reporting in favour of our home realms or providing a neutral point of view here? Or am I as the ASI reporter supposed to produce counter articles or something? Cos if that's the way then we might as well just go back to our realm papers... --Revan 18:48, 7 March 2007 (CET)

Agreed. Propaganda does not belong here. If you feel the need to write ill about your enemy, do it in your realms' papers. The Atamaran Advocate is supposed to a be a news source, not a source of propaganda. It serves no purpose if its just another forum for individuals to praise their own realms while badmouthing others. -Francisco Pizarro 19:17, 7 March 2007 (CET)