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==Known Points==
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==Known Fame Points==
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The are at least 41 known points of the 51 total. Once we figure out if there is a point for every skill then we will know weather we only know 41 or we know 46.
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An * denotes an unclarity in the Fame Point to be discussed later.
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===Offices===
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*'''1''' - Becoming a Ruler (realm must be large enough)
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*'''1''' - Becoming a Banker (realm must be large enough)
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*'''1''' - Becoming a Judge (realm must be large enough)
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*'''1''' - Becoming a General (realm must be large enough)
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*'''4''' - 10th day as Ruler (realm must be large enough)
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*'''1''' - 100th day as Ruler (realm must be large enough)
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*'''1''' - Becoming a Region Lord
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*'''2''' - Becoming a Duke
  
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==Guesses==
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'''Total:''' 12
  
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===Point That are Known to Be There===
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===Attributes===
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Based on Tom's hints we know there has to be at least one fame point in these categories.
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*'''1''' - A character gaining 10 prestige
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*'''1''' - A character gaining 20 prestige
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*'''1''' - A character gaining 50 prestige
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*'''1''' - 20 prestige total across all characters
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*'''1''' - 50 prestige total across all characters
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*'''1''' - 100 prestige total across all characters
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*'''1''' - 2000 Family Wealth
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*'''1''' - 5000 Family Wealth
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*'''1''' - A character reaching over 50% in a skill (It was previously unclear if this was a one time fame point, or for each skill.  After research I have determined it to be a one time point.)
  
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====Trader====
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'''Total:''' 9
  
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====Marshal/Battle====
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===Events===
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*'''1''' - For a ruler moving the Capital of a realm or building a Palace
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*'''1''' - For hosting a tournament*
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*'''3''' - For winning a tournament*
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*'''1''' - For sponsoring an army* (Must Found the army, not gain sponsorship in some other way)
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*'''2''' - For founding a new guild or religion (Only once, not for both a guild and a religion)
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*'''3''' - "Prophet Fame"*
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*'''1''' - A mentor publishing a book
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*'''1''' - For making a Family Investment in a region
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*'''1''' - "Outcast Fame"*
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*'''1''' - "Trader Fame"*
  
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====Infiltrator/Bounties====
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'''Total:''' 15
  
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==Uncertainties in Known Fame Points==
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===Death===
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*'''1''' - Death
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*'''1''' - Heroic Death
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*'''3''' - Legendary Hero*
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*'''1''' - Duel to the death Prevalence
  
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*'''There is Fame for exceptional skill(s)'''  
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'''Total:''' 6
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::One time deal, or for all skills?
 
  
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*'''Sponsorship Fame: Successful Army?'''
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'''Total Known Fame Points:''' 42
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::Almost certain that you have to found the army, not have sponsorship passed.
 
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::I believe I just gained this point.  I can tell it is not based on size, nor does it have anything to do with battles.  This leads me to believe it is either time based, or time based with a certain number of required nobles.  I believe the second.  I can also estimate on the numbers.  I believe I created the army about a month ago.  There are 11 nobles in it.  This leads me to believe that to get the point the army must stand for over a month with at least 10 nobles in it. 
 
  
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*'''Legendary Hero?'''
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==Unclarities==
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===Tournament Points===
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To gain these fame points the tournament must be "successful."  What makes a tournament successful is unknown.
  
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*'''Successful Tournament?'''
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===Army Sponsorship===
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::I assume based on the number of nobles (possibly a ratio against how many are on the island).  Might also be if you turn a profit from the tournament.
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Not sure if this fame point is on a long delay or if the army must meet a certain criteria to trigger it.
  
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*'''Prophet Fame'''
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===Prophet Fame===
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Gained by the founder of a religion after his religion meets some milestone.  It is unknown what the milestone is.
  
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*'''Outcast Fame'''
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===Outcast Fame===
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What exactly makes a character an outcast?
  
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==Hints from Tom==
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===Trader Fame===
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All that is known is that a trader can gain a fame point.  How is unknown.
  
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===Not Already Attributed===
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===Legendary Hero===
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What makes a hero legendary?
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*'''Only one Fame point has not yet been collected - all other Fame points have been earned by at least one, usually many. This undiscovered Fame point can be earned in battle.'''
 
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*'''There is a trader-specific Fame point.'''
 
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*'''Military/Marshal'''
 
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[[Lemon Fame 2#Avenues of Investigation#Leading forces in Battle?|Link1]]
 
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*'''Bounties'''
 
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[[Lemon Fame 2#Avenues of Investigation#Bounties|Link1]]
 
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===Already Attributed===
 
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*'''Founding a religion or a guild gives the same Fame. But being the Founder of a "successful" religion grants more Fame in advance. '''
 
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**'''There is Fame in religion.'''
 
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::1)Fame for founding Guild/Religion
 
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::2)Prophet Fame (Assuming it applies to Guilds the same as religion
 
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:::[[Lemon Fame 2#Avenues of Investigation|Link1]]
 
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*'''Family Wealth'''
 
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[[Lemon Fame 2#Avenues of Investigation#Steve's guesses|Link1]]
 
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::I assume the 2-3 fame tom speaks of would be the 2k and 5k family wealth.
 
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*'''There is a Fame point that can be gained in the infiltrator career (technically also in others, though Tom doubts anyone but an infiltrator could really pull it off). It's not based on Honour, though.'''
 
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::Outcast fame.
 
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===Uncertainties===
 
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*'''Some of the recently added Fame is easier for non-addicts to achieve, so some of the lower families will get Fame, too.'''
 
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::Will have to look into what fame was known at the time compared to what we know now.
 

Revision as of 03:21, 19 August 2009

Known Fame Points

An * denotes an unclarity in the Fame Point to be discussed later.

Offices

  • 1 - Becoming a Ruler (realm must be large enough)
  • 1 - Becoming a Banker (realm must be large enough)
  • 1 - Becoming a Judge (realm must be large enough)
  • 1 - Becoming a General (realm must be large enough)
  • 4 - 10th day as Ruler (realm must be large enough)
  • 1 - 100th day as Ruler (realm must be large enough)
  • 1 - Becoming a Region Lord
  • 2 - Becoming a Duke

Total: 12

Attributes

  • 1 - A character gaining 10 prestige
  • 1 - A character gaining 20 prestige
  • 1 - A character gaining 50 prestige
  • 1 - 20 prestige total across all characters
  • 1 - 50 prestige total across all characters
  • 1 - 100 prestige total across all characters
  • 1 - 2000 Family Wealth
  • 1 - 5000 Family Wealth
  • 1 - A character reaching over 50% in a skill (It was previously unclear if this was a one time fame point, or for each skill. After research I have determined it to be a one time point.)

Total: 9

Events

  • 1 - For a ruler moving the Capital of a realm or building a Palace
  • 1 - For hosting a tournament*
  • 3 - For winning a tournament*
  • 1 - For sponsoring an army* (Must Found the army, not gain sponsorship in some other way)
  • 2 - For founding a new guild or religion (Only once, not for both a guild and a religion)
  • 3 - "Prophet Fame"*
  • 1 - A mentor publishing a book
  • 1 - For making a Family Investment in a region
  • 1 - "Outcast Fame"*
  • 1 - "Trader Fame"*

Total: 15

Death

  • 1 - Death
  • 1 - Heroic Death
  • 3 - Legendary Hero*
  • 1 - Duel to the death Prevalence

Total: 6

Total Known Fame Points: 42

Unclarities

Tournament Points

To gain these fame points the tournament must be "successful." What makes a tournament successful is unknown.

Army Sponsorship

Not sure if this fame point is on a long delay or if the army must meet a certain criteria to trigger it.

Prophet Fame

Gained by the founder of a religion after his religion meets some milestone. It is unknown what the milestone is.

Outcast Fame

What exactly makes a character an outcast?

Trader Fame

All that is known is that a trader can gain a fame point. How is unknown.

Legendary Hero

What makes a hero legendary?

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