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This is the report of claimants for The Order of Morek. (these are RP, IC claims, not game mechanical claims)
 
This is the report of claimants for The Order of Morek. (these are RP, IC claims, not game mechanical claims)
  
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First, claims are legal reasons for just ownership of a title. Anyone holding a claim has a right to the region they claim, but may be legally or factually overpowered to actual ownership. These are guidlines to catagorize claims, thay are not arbitrary atributes a character "has" or "has not" rather they are summeries of a far more detailed RP reasoning. There are also some claim types that may not listed.
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First, claims are legal reasons for just ownership of a title. Anyone holding a claim has a right to the region they claim, but may be legally or factually overpowered to actual ownership. These are guidelines to categorize claims, they are not arbitrary attributes a character "has" or "has not" rather they are summaries of a far more detailed RP reasoning. There are also some claim types that may not listed. They are also not a checklist to run through in order to legitimize your in-game claims.  
  
 
As the player of a character, you are required to list your claims here inorder to fairly press your claims in-game. This is a means for other characters to know who they have to compete with inorder to press a claim.  
 
As the player of a character, you are required to list your claims here inorder to fairly press your claims in-game. This is a means for other characters to know who they have to compete with inorder to press a claim.  
  
 
There are many types of claims and some are weaker than others. These are written in shorthand for practical purposes. They are as follows:
 
There are many types of claims and some are weaker than others. These are written in shorthand for practical purposes. They are as follows:
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===Interests===
 
  
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Interests are very very weak claims, especially if is general to the region, or is unbefitting of the region.(military interest in a bishopric for example)
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:Interest. Interest is nothing more than your willingness to rule a region. You should only have 1 of these for any region you have a claim for and only one within the entire realms list of regions.  
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:Interest: has shown interest in a claim on the region, this is very, very weak.
 
 
:Not Interested: is willfully avert to the idea of ownership, this negates a claim, but can be reversed at any time.
 
:Not Interested: is willfully avert to the idea of ownership, this negates a claim, but can be reversed at any time.
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:Religious interests: the claimant has an interest in the church. If the region is considered a bishopric, this is a very weak claim. If not, the claim is almost non-existent.
 
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:Military interest: shows interest in development or leadership of the military in the region. This is a very very weak claim, but is strengthened if it is to a boarder region, on of strategic importance.
 
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:Stewardal interest: shows interest in administration or politics of the region. a very very weak claim.
 
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Merit
 
  
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Merit is much like interests except shows competency and experience. These claims are weak, but stronger than interests. Merits overwrite interests.
 
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:Religious merit: has shown experience in religious leadership and investment. These claims are very weak unless to a bishopric.
 
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:Military merit: has shown experience in military leadership and investment. These claims are weak unless to a boarder region or region of strategic importance.
 
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:Stewardal Merit: has shown experienced in stewardal acts and politics. This claim is somewhat weak.
 
 
===Feudal and Secular Claims===
 
===Feudal and Secular Claims===
  
 
Feudal/Secular claims are usually very strong. They are associated with political prowess and power.
 
Feudal/Secular claims are usually very strong. They are associated with political prowess and power.
  
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:Owner De facto: If your rule a region, you have a claim to it, and very strong one.
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:Owner De facto: If your rule a region, you have a claim to it, and very strong one. This is based on a might is right princable. This claim is self evident and does not need to be mentioned.
 
:Knight: If you are a knight of a region, you have a claim on it. The claim may very in strength. This claim is self evident and does not need to posted.
 
:Knight: If you are a knight of a region, you have a claim on it. The claim may very in strength. This claim is self evident and does not need to posted.
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:Overlord: If you are a duke, you have claim to any land within the duchy that you have not personally given in trust. The same goes for the grandmaster to ducal rulership. This claim is quite strong.
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:Overlord: If you are a duke, you have claim to any land within the duchy that you have not personally given in trust. The same goes for the grandmaster to ducal rulership. This claim is quite strong. It it means to posses power of appointment of a region lord within your domain.
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:Appointment: If you have been appointed to a region and are not yet the lord, you have very strong claim to it.
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:Appointment: If you have been appointed to a region and are not yet the lord, you have very strong claim to it. This depends on just who is appointing you based on their feudal relation to you.  
 
:Personal Nomination: If someone nominated you to a lordship, you have claim to it. These are usually very weak, but get stronger with the influence of the nominator and the number of nominations.
 
:Personal Nomination: If someone nominated you to a lordship, you have claim to it. These are usually very weak, but get stronger with the influence of the nominator and the number of nominations.
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:Elective Nomination: If you are nominated by election, you have a claim as strong as appointment.
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:Elective Nomination: If you are nominated by election, you have a claim as strong as appointment. It is not likely this will ever occur.  
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:Conqueror: If you conquer a region, you have a fair claim to it.
 
 
===Inheritance===
 
===Inheritance===
 
Inheritance claims are very strong. These are held by relatives. (IC RP bonds, since the BM is not set up for familial relationships.)
 
Inheritance claims are very strong. These are held by relatives. (IC RP bonds, since the BM is not set up for familial relationships.)
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<b>Donghaiwei</b>(capitol, city, seat of the Duchy of Donghaiwei)
 
<b>Donghaiwei</b>(capitol, city, seat of the Duchy of Donghaiwei)
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:Deverka Cryfdwr- Owner De Facto, Ducal Claim, Realm Claim.
 
 
:Kat Enochian- Knight, stewardal experience
 
:Kat Enochian- Knight, stewardal experience
 
:Aelwolf Burson- Knight, not interested
 
:Aelwolf Burson- Knight, not interested
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Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei
 
Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei
  
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:Allison Kabrinski- Owner Defacto, Appointed by Deverka Cryfdwr(duke)
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:Maura Hart- Owner Defacto, Appointed by Allison Kabrinski(previous owner
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested
  
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Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei
 
Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei
  
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:Brance Indirik- Owner De Facto, Appointed by Deverka Cryfdwr(duke)
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:Brance Indirik- Owner De Facto, Appointed by Brance Indirik(previous owner)
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested
  
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Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei
 
Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei
  
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:Medugnatos Stormcrow-Owner defacto, Appointed by Deverka Cryfdwr(Duke) Supported(Anabellium West, Vesuvis Adriddae, Allison Kabrinski, Maura Hart)
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested
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:Artanis Adastra- Knight claim, Military Merit, Interest: stewardal and military.
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:Medugnatos Stormcrow-Supported(Anabellium West, Vesuvis Adriddae, Allison Kabrinski, Maura Hart)Military Merit, Interest: stewardal, military and political
 
  
 
<b>Bohai</b>(rural,boarder region, Duchy of Donghaiwei):  
 
<b>Bohai</b>(rural,boarder region, Duchy of Donghaiwei):  
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:Haakon Klingenberg - Owner De Facto, interest
 
:Haakon Klingenberg - Owner De Facto, interest
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested
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:Anabellium - Conquerer, Military Merit, Military Interest
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:Justin Greystone- supported(Anabellium West), interest
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:Justin Greystone- supported(Anabellium West), Stewardal merit, interest
 
  
 
<b>Unterstrom</b>(city, Ducal seat):
 
<b>Unterstrom</b>(city, Ducal seat):
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:Mathurin Hossenfeffer- Owner De facto, Appointed,
 
:Mathurin Hossenfeffer- Owner De facto, Appointed,
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested
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:Teniel Dell- supported(Allison Kabrinski, Zul'Jin Stormreaver II, Anabellium West), stewardal merit,military interest, private intent for personal investment, religious interest, interest
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:Vesuvis Addidrae- interested.
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:Vesuvis- Conquerer, religious interest, stewardal interest, military interest, military merit, interested.
 
  
 
<b>Flowrestown</b> (city, Ducal seat):
 
<b>Flowrestown</b> (city, Ducal seat):
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:Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
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:Vesuvis Adriddae- supported (Allyson Kabrinski, Anabellium West, Justin Greystone),religious interest, stewardal merit, stewardal interest, military interest, military merit, interested
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:Vesuvis Adriddae- supported (Allyson Kabrinski, Anabellium West, Justin Greystone),interested
  
 
<b>Flow</b>(townsland, Duchy of Flowrestown)
 
<b>Flow</b>(townsland, Duchy of Flowrestown)
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:Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
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:Justin Greystone, Stewardal merit, Military merit, interested
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:Justin Greystone, interested
  
 
<b>Taishan</b>(rural, Duchy of Donghaiwei)
 
<b>Taishan</b>(rural, Duchy of Donghaiwei)
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Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Grandmaster
 
Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Grandmaster
  
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:Aram Stien - Religious Interest, Personal Interest in Investment to Upgrade Region, Military Merit, Stewardal Merit, interest
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:Aram Stien - interest
  
 
<b>Huanghai</b>(rural, Duchy of Donghaiwei)
 
<b>Huanghai</b>(rural, Duchy of Donghaiwei)
 
Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei
 
Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei
  
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:Vesuvis Addridae - Appointed/Owner de facto Conquerer, military merit, stewardal merit, interest
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:Vesuvis Addridae - Appointed by Deverka Cryfdwr(duke) Owner de facto
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:Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested
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:Jose Pablo - interest, stewardal merit, supported (Zul'Jin Stormreaver)
 
  
 
<b>Libidizedd</b>(city, Ducal seat):
 
<b>Libidizedd</b>(city, Ducal seat):
 
Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Grandmaster
 
Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Grandmaster
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:Aram Stien -  Religious Interest,  Personal Interest in Investment to Upgrade Region, Military Merit, Stewardal Merit, interest
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:Aram Stien -  interest
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:Brance Indirik - Stewardal Merit and Interest, Religious Interest
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:Brance Indirik - Interest
  
 
<b>Nimh</b>(rural, Duchy of Donghaiwei)
 
<b>Nimh</b>(rural, Duchy of Donghaiwei)
 
Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei
 
Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei
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:Justin Greystone- Appointed
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:Justin Greystone- Appointed by Deverka Cryfdwr(Duke)
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
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:Anabellium - Conquerer, Military Merit,
 
  
 
<b>Mimer</b>(city)
 
<b>Mimer</b>(city)
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:Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
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:Horus Darkfire- Military merit, Stewardal merit
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:Aram Stien -
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:Aram Stien - Religious Interest, Personal Interest in Investment to Upgrade Region, Military Merit, Stewardal Merit, interest
 
  
 
<b>Cailyn</b>(rural, Duchy of Donghaiwei)
 
<b>Cailyn</b>(rural, Duchy of Donghaiwei)
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:Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
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:Serkan Colorad- Appointed, supported(Liandra Greywolf, Zul'Jin Stormreaver II), Military interest, Stewardal Merit, Personal Interest In Investment to Upgrade Region
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:Serkan Colorad- Appointed by Deverka Cryfdwr(grandmaster), supported(Liandra Greywolf, Zul'Jin Stormreaver II),  
  
 
<b>Unterstrom Vorstadt</b> (townsland, Duchy of Unterstrom)
 
<b>Unterstrom Vorstadt</b> (townsland, Duchy of Unterstrom)
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:Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
 
:Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
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:Teniel Dell- (Supported: Justin Greystone, Zul'Jin Stormreaver) Stewardal merit, military interest, private intent for personal investment, religious interest, interest
 
 
:Anabellium 'Runner'- Stewardal Merit, Military Merit, Tentative Appointment
 
:Anabellium 'Runner'- Stewardal Merit, Military Merit, Tentative Appointment
  
 
<b>Fatexna</b> (Rural)
 
<b>Fatexna</b> (Rural)
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Jamlai Malova- interested, religious interest, military interest
 
  
 
<b>Mamaroneck</b> (Rural, Duchy of Unterstrom)
 
<b>Mamaroneck</b> (Rural, Duchy of Unterstrom)
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Right of Scutage and vassalage held by no one
 
Right of Scutage and vassalage held by no one
  
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:Inkrav Donkeyvich - Interest, Religious interest, Military interest, Stewardal interest, Stewardal merit
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:Inkrav Donkeyvich - Interest

Revision as of 05:20, 2 April 2008

Overview

This is the report of claimants for The Order of Morek. (these are RP, IC claims, not game mechanical claims)

First, claims are legal reasons for just ownership of a title. Anyone holding a claim has a right to the region they claim, but may be legally or factually overpowered to actual ownership. These are guidelines to categorize claims, they are not arbitrary attributes a character "has" or "has not" rather they are summaries of a far more detailed RP reasoning. There are also some claim types that may not listed. They are also not a checklist to run through in order to legitimize your in-game claims.

As the player of a character, you are required to list your claims here inorder to fairly press your claims in-game. This is a means for other characters to know who they have to compete with inorder to press a claim.

There are many types of claims and some are weaker than others. These are written in shorthand for practical purposes. They are as follows:

Interest. Interest is nothing more than your willingness to rule a region. You should only have 1 of these for any region you have a claim for and only one within the entire realms list of regions.
Not Interested: is willfully avert to the idea of ownership, this negates a claim, but can be reversed at any time.

Feudal and Secular Claims

Feudal/Secular claims are usually very strong. They are associated with political prowess and power.

Owner De facto: If your rule a region, you have a claim to it, and very strong one. This is based on a might is right princable. This claim is self evident and does not need to be mentioned.
Knight: If you are a knight of a region, you have a claim on it. The claim may very in strength. This claim is self evident and does not need to posted.
Overlord: If you are a duke, you have claim to any land within the duchy that you have not personally given in trust. The same goes for the grandmaster to ducal rulership. This claim is quite strong. It it means to posses power of appointment of a region lord within your domain.
Appointment: If you have been appointed to a region and are not yet the lord, you have very strong claim to it. This depends on just who is appointing you based on their feudal relation to you.
Personal Nomination: If someone nominated you to a lordship, you have claim to it. These are usually very weak, but get stronger with the influence of the nominator and the number of nominations.
Elective Nomination: If you are nominated by election, you have a claim as strong as appointment. It is not likely this will ever occur.

Inheritance

Inheritance claims are very strong. These are held by relatives. (IC RP bonds, since the BM is not set up for familial relationships.)

All relatives receive a claim when a person abdicates or is killed. The strength of relations are as follows. If the top person is dead, you restart the list from that dead person and only proceed down the list if there is no one on the entire list of the next dead or non-existent person. For this reason distant relations do not need to be displayed (cousins, uncles, grandchildren)

Eldest child
Child
Spouse
Eldest Sibling
Sibling
Parents
Eldest Bastard (adventurer, if inheritance is accepted, becomes noble)
Bastard

Current Claims by Region(no particular order)

Donghaiwei(capitol, city, seat of the Duchy of Donghaiwei)

Kat Enochian- Knight, stewardal experience
Aelwolf Burson- Knight, not interested

Donghai(townsland, duchy of Donghaiwei) Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei

Maura Hart- Owner Defacto, Appointed by Allison Kabrinski(previous owner
Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested

Linhai(Rural, Duchy of Donhaiwei) Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei

Brance Indirik- Owner De Facto, Appointed by Brance Indirik(previous owner)
Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested

Zhongyuan(rural, Duchy of Donghaiwei): Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei


Medugnatos Stormcrow-Owner defacto, Appointed by Deverka Cryfdwr(Duke) Supported(Anabellium West, Vesuvis Adriddae, Allison Kabrinski, Maura Hart)
Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested


Bohai(rural,boarder region, Duchy of Donghaiwei): Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei

Haakon Klingenberg - Owner De Facto, interest
Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested
Justin Greystone- supported(Anabellium West), interest

Unterstrom(city, Ducal seat): Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Grandmaster

Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interesrested
Allison Kabrinski- supported(Vesuvis Adriddae, Brance Indirik, Gafgarion Karstark, Anabellium West, Aram Stien), stewardal merit, great investments (in Donghai), military merit,

interest


Caiyun(bishopric, townsland, Duchy of Donghaiwei): Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei

Mathurin Hossenfeffer- Owner De facto, Appointed,
Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested
Vesuvis Addidrae- interested.

Flowrestown (city, Ducal seat): Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Grandmaster

Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
Vesuvis Adriddae- supported (Allyson Kabrinski, Anabellium West, Justin Greystone),interested

Flow(townsland, Duchy of Flowrestown) Right of Scutage and vassalage held by no one, by title of Duke of Flowrestown.

Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
Justin Greystone, interested

Taishan(rural, Duchy of Donghaiwei) Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei

Anabellium West- Appointed, Conquerer, Military Merit, Military Interest
Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested

Freke(townsland, Duchy of Miner): Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Grandmaster

Aram Stien - interest

Huanghai(rural, Duchy of Donghaiwei) Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei

Vesuvis Addridae - Appointed by Deverka Cryfdwr(duke) Owner de facto
Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested

Libidizedd(city, Ducal seat): Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Grandmaster

Aram Stien - interest
Brance Indirik - Interest

Nimh(rural, Duchy of Donghaiwei) Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei

Justin Greystone- Appointed by Deverka Cryfdwr(Duke)
Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested

Mimer(city) Right of Scutage and vassalage held by no one

Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
Aram Stien -

Cailyn(rural, Duchy of Donghaiwei) Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei

Lynsey Habap- Owner, Stewardal Interest
Deverka Cryfdwr- ducal claim, realm claim, not interested

Shomrak (rural, Duchy of Donghaiwei) Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of Duke of Donghaiwei

Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
Serkan Colorad- Appointed by Deverka Cryfdwr(grandmaster), supported(Liandra Greywolf, Zul'Jin Stormreaver II),

Unterstrom Vorstadt (townsland, Duchy of Unterstrom) Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of the Grandmaster and/or the Duke of Unterstrom:

Deverka Cryfdwr- realm claim, not interested
Anabellium 'Runner'- Stewardal Merit, Military Merit, Tentative Appointment

Fatexna (Rural)

Mamaroneck (Rural, Duchy of Unterstrom) Right of scutage and vassalage held by Deverka Cryfdwr by title of the Grandmaster and/or the Duke of Unterstrom:


Ashrak (Rural, Unknown duchy) Right of Scutage and vassalage held by no one

Inkrav Donkeyvich - Interest
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