Talk:Old Rancagua/Reasons

I'm sorry, but this document is quite comical. Firstly, your claims aren't historically correct at all. Just so you know, I'm NOT an Avamarian. The Avamarians hate me, and I hate them. I'm Hireshmont Vellos. Yes, you know my name. Allow me to make you look stupid for a few moments. Firstly, Lalakis is NOT a Rogala. I don't remember what his family name is, but I know it isn't Rogala. El Cid and One are Rogalas, but not Lalakis. Secondly, you say to take Avamarian historical accountings with a grain of salt, but make no such comment about your own accountings. At LEAST have the dignity to recognize your own propaganda. Heck, I am a propagandist of the best (or worst, depending on perspective) sort. Your document is pure and unadulterated propaganda, and sensationalist accountings designed to provoke and inflame an already volatile situation. Avamar may have been full of crackpots, idiots, and foolish radicals, but at least they weren't tyrants. Old Rancagua's demands scream of tyranny. Perhaps Grig's legacy still remains? The next big thing is that you say people from all over the continent were invited to join the KI colony. LIES. Six Oligarchian TLs, with NO CONNECTIONS TO AVAMAR, were denied entrance. Nextly, the Charger Rebellion/Operation Rubber Ducky wasn't organized or led by Avamarians, and we only said it would be used to reinstate Avamar so we could use the Avamarians as tools. I organized it, I know all the details. There was no plan to reinstate Avamar. The plan was to usurp OR, destroy it systematically, while using it to plague Sirion. We knew we couldn't hold it, but if we couldn't have it, then NOBODY could. Now about the three crimes, the first crime, Avamarian, is a joke. You might as well say all Oligarchians are guilty of the Rubber Ducky operation, or all Sirionites are guilty of genocide. Thats a sensationalist claim beyond what even I or Avamar would say, and you just sound like an idiot. Now about being an Islander. Rats, YOU are an Islander. Now go execute yourself! What a crime! You are from the Islands! Also, If ail to see the difference between "Islander" and "Rebelling Kalmarian". So go, think for about 30 seconds before writing your propaganda next time, and THEN try and play with the big boys. Until then, well, you are what you claim to be: a filthy, snivelling, rat. Vellos 02:34, 18 October 2006 (CEST)

Most of whats written by nobles is rather comical. Kalmar Islands had ten Perdanese and ten Old Rancaguan nobles to begin with. Master Hiereshmont is correct in saying people were not universally accepted. Whats more your list is already incorrect, for I am not on it. I was in Kalmar Islands for atleast 100 days probably more than 150, defending Kalmar Islands from Old Rancagua. Had the realm not split, I'd still. I would like to ask my name to be added to your little list. Although I'm not going to get involved in the war now. I am an islander and if the people in the islands had a bit more sense I'd still be fighting on the Kalmarian side. Don't tarnich my pride by disincluding me.

Your wonderful Kalmarian Islander friend,

Legatus DeSyrr --Alex 03:06, 18 October 2006 (CEST)(Character: Legatus)

What I really find the most humorous in all this (I'm the play of El Cid and One by the way) is that I, One, was trying to rid the islands of the Avamarians and all Kalamarians who sided with them also. I stated this to Dekion when I suceeded Kalamar and made the Avamar Selective. I told him this was all a ploy to cause disary and confusion, giving OR the perfect chance to deafeat the KI and reclaim the land in the name of the original inhabitants. He however seemed to think he could defeat KI without my help, and infact, so much so, he declared war on my newly suceeded realm. I proceeded in attempts to convince him otherwise, but he seemed to like suciding his army against mine instead. Time has now passed, and I have been removed from power. The perfect time to strike has been missed all because... Dekion's Ego got in the way. Seriously though, what was the logic behind OR declaring war on AS (militraristically it made no sense), can anyone in OR help me out here?

--One 05:35, 18 October 2006 (CEST) P.S. Seriously someone give me a roleplay medal already, this is just ridiculous!

Wow the last time I read anything this silly was the Anti-Alexi page on the old tiki…… You guys have really raised the bar for mind numbingly daft wiki posts.--Dalakar 05:43, 18 October 2006 (CEST)

One, Let me put their mindset in words best fit for it... a short singing bit from a cartoon named Rocko's Modern Life. "We're a big unruly mob!" But seriously, after seeing both sides of it, I can't blame either for the situation. --Eurtek 17:07, 18 October 2006 (CEST)

I have rejoined Kalmar Islands upon the completion of the War in Perdan. Perhaps you I could be listed as an islander and criminal(despite being a Loyalist in the hijacking way back when)? I've been here longer than most(although with occaional absence) and would like the respect and acknowledgement of my Kalmarian status that I believe I deserve. --Alex 01:42, 13 November 2006 (CET)(as Legatus)