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<i> Researcher: Rohnen Veritas </i> | <i> Researcher: Rohnen Veritas </i> | ||
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As a warrior:<br> | |||
10 men : 280CS (C 25% M 97% T 75%) CS/Man: 28 <br> | |||
20 men : 480CS (C 21% M 97% T 75%) CS/Man: 24<br> | |||
30 men : 672CS (C 21% M 97% T 75%) CS/Man: 22.4<br> | |||
As a warrior/cavalier:<br> | |||
9 men : 405CS (C 100% M 100% T 90% D 6%) CS/Man: 45<br> | |||
16 men : 528CS (C 78% M 99% T 82% D 0%) CS/Man: 33<br> | |||
34 men : 805CS (C 58% M 91% T 78% D 4%)CS/Man: 23.66<br> | |||
Cohesion seems to be a major factor in CS calculation.<br> | |||
20 | My particular unit seems very fond of the ladies they gained 12 morale and 9 cohesion after 2 hours.<br> | ||
Behaves like infantry on open field. I suspect they have a slight charge bonus when in wedge formation and increase their damage slightly every round.<br> | |||
'''Battle in Scio:'''<br> | |||
Scio 12/31/2010 Caligus vs. rogue<br> | |||
Attaker; 30 SF; wedge; aggresive; 17% organization; 807 CS; 26.9 cs/man<br> | |||
turn 1: -<br> | |||
turn 2: score 613 hits (20.43/man, 0.76/cs), took 110-m with 2 casualties (55/casualty)<br> | |||
turn 3: score 473 hits (16.89/man, 0.63/cs), took 88-m with 2 casualties (44/casualty)<br> | |||
turn 4: score 797 hits (30.65/man, 1.14/cs), took 42-m with 1 casualty (42/casualty)<br> | |||
'''Battle in Scio:''' | |||
Scio 1/1/2011 Caligus vs. rogue<br> | |||
Attaker; 30 SF; wedge; aggresive; 17% organization; 829 CS; 27.63 cs/man<br> | |||
turn 1: -<br> | |||
turn 2: score 659 hits (31.97/man, 0.79/cs), took 47-m with 1 casualties (47/casualty)<br> | |||
'''The Battle in Moyale:'''<br> | |||
Moyale 1/6/2011 Caligus Vs. Ibladesh<br> | |||
Attaker; 31 SF; wedge; aggresive; 95% organization; 815 CS; 26.29 cs/man<br> | |||
turn 1: -<br> | |||
turn 2: score 943 hits (30.42/man, 1.16/cs), took 200-m with 4 casualties (50/casualty)<br> | |||
'''The Battle in Liebo:'''<br> | |||
Leibo 1/7/2011 Ibladesh vs. Caligus<br> | |||
Defender; 28 SF; line; defensive; 97% organization; 730CS<br> | |||
turn 1: score 581 hits (20.75/man, 0.80/cs), take 173-m, 383-a hits with 12 casualties (43/casualty)<br> | |||
turn 2: score 355 hits (22.19/man, 0.85/cs), take 481-m hits with 11 casualties (43.73/casualty)<br> | |||
turn 3: score 130 hits (26/man, 1.00/cs), take 356-m hits with 5 casualties (71.2/casualty-wipe)<br> | |||
'''The Battle in Abadan'''<br> | |||
1/15/2011 Ibladesh vs. Caligus<br> | |||
CS 820 Org: 95 Wedge Def Sentry<br> | |||
Turn 2: 925 Scored (27.21/man, 1.13/CS) 519-m, 408-a with 19 casualties (48.79/man)<br> | |||
Turn 3: 524 Scored (34.93/man, 1.45/CS) 427-m with 9 casualties (47.44/man)<br> | |||
Turn 4: 333 Scored (55.5/man, 2.3/CS) 112-m with 2 casualties (56/man) retreat<br> | |||
'''The Battle in Leibo'''<br> | |||
1/21/2011 Caligus Vs. Ibladesh<br> | |||
CS 545, 20 SF, Org:69 Line Agg Army<br> | |||
Turn 3: 513 Scored (25.65/man, 0.94/CS) 148-a with 3 casualties (49.33/man)<br> | |||
Turn 4: 284 Scored (16.71/man)<br> | |||
Turn 5: 435 Scored (25.59/man) 62-m with 1 casualty (62/man)<br> | |||
Turn 6: 441 Scored (27.56/Man) 422-m with 8 casualties (52.75/man)<br> | |||
Turn 7: 253 Scored (31.63/man) 386-m with 8 casualties (48.25/man-wipe)<br> | |||
'''The battle in Abadan'''<br> | |||
1/24/2011 Caligus vs. Ibladesh<br> | |||
CS 512, 19 SF, Org: 92 Wedge Agg Army<br> | |||
Turn 2: 619 Scored (32.58/man, 1.21/CS) 102-m, 486-a with 12 casualties (49/man)<br> | |||
Turn 3: 162 Scored (23.14/man) 110-m with 2 casualties (55/man)<br> | |||
Turn 4: 142 Scored (28.4/man) 44-m with 1 casualty (44/man)<br> | |||
Turn 5: 155 Scored (38.75/man) 237-m with 4 casualties (59.25/man-wipe)<br> | |||
=== Elite Phalanx === | |||
''Researcher: Reinen Veritas'' | |||
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Warrior<br> | |||
8 Men: 174CS (C 16%, M 40%, T 80% D 0%) CS/Man: 21.75<br> | |||
24 Men: 461CS (C 18, M 58%, T 80% D 1%) CS/Man: 19.21<br> | |||
'''The Battle of Abadan'''<br> | |||
1/15/2011 Ibladesh vs. Caligus<br> | |||
CS: 467 Org: 94% Wedge Def Sentry<br> | |||
Turn 2: 346 Scored (14.42/man, .14/CS) 171-m with 4 casualties (42.75/cas)<br> | |||
Turn 3: 243 Scored (12.15/man, .52/CS) 1387-m with 20 casualties (69.35/cas-wipe)<br> | |||
===Isadrillian Powder=== | ===Isadrillian Powder=== | ||
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20 men : 426CS (C 56% M 100% T 57%)<br> | 20 men : 426CS (C 56% M 100% T 57%)<br> | ||
30 men : 793CS (C 95% M 100% T 67%)<br> | 30 men : 793CS (C 95% M 100% T 67%)<br> | ||
High hit rate archers in all battles, never entered the melee preferring to act as archers. High hits per man, decent defence: between 26 and 37 hits per casualty. | |||
'''The First Battle Fontan:'''<br> | |||
Attacker; 46 SF; Line; Normal; 64% Organisation; 920CS; (20 CS/man)<br> | |||
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Turn 1: Score 218 hits (range) (4.74 hits/man)<br> | |||
Turn 3: Take 310 hits from archer fire, which cause 7 casualties (44.3hits/casualty)<br> | |||
Turn 4: Score 266 hits (range) (6.82 hits/man) <br> | |||
Turn 5: Score 291 hits (range) (7.46 hits/man) <br> | |||
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'''The Second Battle Fontan:'''<br> | |||
Attacker; 43 SF; Line; Normal; 64% Organisation; 861CS; (20 CS/man)<br> | |||
<br> | |||
Turn 1: Score 206 hits (range) (4.79 hits/man) Take 75 hits from archer fire, which cause 2 casualties (37.5hits/casualty)<br> | |||
Turn 2: Score 411 hits (range) (10 hits/man) <br> | |||
Turn 3: Score 233 hits (range) (5.68 hits/man) <br> | |||
Turn 4: Score 242 hits (range) (5.90 hits/man) Take 51 hits from archer fire, which cause 1 casualties (51 hits/casualty) <br> | |||
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===The Branded Ones=== | ===The Branded Ones=== | ||
<i> | <i> Researcher: Erazem Luegg</i> | ||
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10 men : 247CS (C 17% M 84% T 85%)<br> | 10 men : 247CS (C 17% M 84% T 85%) 25 CS/man<br> | ||
20 men : 445CS (C 21% M 84% T 85%)<br> | 20 men : 445CS (C 21% M 84% T 85%) 22 CS/man<br> | ||
23 men : 504CS (C 22% M 84% T 85%) 25 CS/man<br> | |||
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Seems just like a regular infantry unit when fighting in an open field (Battle in Aestus, Battles in Leibo). Strong in defense (cca 45 hits per casualty) | |||
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'''Battle in Aestus report:'''<br> | |||
nb1 Attacker; 12 Monsters; line; 6 % org; 635 CS <br> | |||
nb9 Defender; 23 SF; line; normal; 94% organization; 532 CS<br><br> | |||
turn 2: The Branded Ones (9) score 153 hits (6.7/man, 0.29/CS). The Branded Ones (9) take 38 hits in close combat, which cause 1 casualties.<br> | |||
turn 3: The Branded Ones (9) score 289 hits (13.1/man, 0.57/CS).<br> | |||
turn 4: The Branded Ones (9) score 289 hits (13.1/man, 0.57/CS). The Branded Ones (9) take 16 hits in close combat. No casualties.<br><br> | |||
'''The First Battle in Leibo:'''<br> | |||
Defender; 25 SF; wedge; aggressive; 70% organization; 653CS<br> | |||
turn 2: score 418 hits (16.72/man, 0.64/man), take 85 hits with 2 casualties (42,5/casualty)<br> | |||
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'''The Second Battle in Leibo:'''<br> | |||
Defender; 25 SF; line; defensive; 97% organization; 656CS<br> | |||
turn 1: score 296 hits (11.48/man, 0.45/man), take 383 hits with 8 casualties (47.88/casualty)<br> | |||
turn 2: score 152 hits (8.94/man), take 508 hits with 11 casualties (46.18/casualty)<br> | |||
turn 3: score 92 hits (15.33/man), take 64 hits with 1 casualties (64/casualty)<br> | |||
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===Honour and Recruitment=== | |||
<i> Researcher: Erazem Luegg</i> | |||
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As can be found on [[Honour and Recruitment]] page the general formula seems to follows:<br> | |||
Number of men = Factor * Honour + Offset <br> | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|- | |||
! scope="col", width=150 |Unit type | |||
! scope="col", width=80 |Factor | |||
! scope="col", width=80 |Offset | |||
|- | |||
| Infantry | |||
| 1.5 | |||
| 22 | |||
|- | |||
| Archers | |||
| 1.5 | |||
| 22 | |||
|- | |||
| Cavalry | |||
| 0.5 | |||
| 7 | |||
|- | |||
| Special Forces<sup>*</sup> | |||
| 0.5 | |||
| 7 | |||
|} | |||
<sup>*</sup> Suspected, will be tested in the future.<br/> | |||
My unit (max 23 men, 32 honour) has the same limitation as the formula for Cavalry (23 = 0.5*32+7), so it is reasonable to conclude the formula is the same. This will be easily verified with a different honour. We should also check if Cavaliers get additional allowance as per cavalry.<br> | |||
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Confirmed: 26 men = 0.5 * 38 honour + 7 |
Latest revision as of 17:11, 28 January 2011
Special Forces Research ![Caligus icon-rev.png](/images/Caligus_icon-rev.png)
N.B.:
CS is Combat strength
C is Cohesion
M is Morale
T is Training
Paladins of Darton
Researcher: Rohnen Veritas
As a warrior:
10 men : 280CS (C 25% M 97% T 75%) CS/Man: 28
20 men : 480CS (C 21% M 97% T 75%) CS/Man: 24
30 men : 672CS (C 21% M 97% T 75%) CS/Man: 22.4
As a warrior/cavalier:
9 men : 405CS (C 100% M 100% T 90% D 6%) CS/Man: 45
16 men : 528CS (C 78% M 99% T 82% D 0%) CS/Man: 33
34 men : 805CS (C 58% M 91% T 78% D 4%)CS/Man: 23.66
Cohesion seems to be a major factor in CS calculation.
My particular unit seems very fond of the ladies they gained 12 morale and 9 cohesion after 2 hours.
Behaves like infantry on open field. I suspect they have a slight charge bonus when in wedge formation and increase their damage slightly every round.
Battle in Scio:
Scio 12/31/2010 Caligus vs. rogue
Attaker; 30 SF; wedge; aggresive; 17% organization; 807 CS; 26.9 cs/man
turn 1: -
turn 2: score 613 hits (20.43/man, 0.76/cs), took 110-m with 2 casualties (55/casualty)
turn 3: score 473 hits (16.89/man, 0.63/cs), took 88-m with 2 casualties (44/casualty)
turn 4: score 797 hits (30.65/man, 1.14/cs), took 42-m with 1 casualty (42/casualty)
Battle in Scio:
Scio 1/1/2011 Caligus vs. rogue
Attaker; 30 SF; wedge; aggresive; 17% organization; 829 CS; 27.63 cs/man
turn 1: -
turn 2: score 659 hits (31.97/man, 0.79/cs), took 47-m with 1 casualties (47/casualty)
The Battle in Moyale:
Moyale 1/6/2011 Caligus Vs. Ibladesh
Attaker; 31 SF; wedge; aggresive; 95% organization; 815 CS; 26.29 cs/man
turn 1: -
turn 2: score 943 hits (30.42/man, 1.16/cs), took 200-m with 4 casualties (50/casualty)
The Battle in Liebo:
Leibo 1/7/2011 Ibladesh vs. Caligus
Defender; 28 SF; line; defensive; 97% organization; 730CS
turn 1: score 581 hits (20.75/man, 0.80/cs), take 173-m, 383-a hits with 12 casualties (43/casualty)
turn 2: score 355 hits (22.19/man, 0.85/cs), take 481-m hits with 11 casualties (43.73/casualty)
turn 3: score 130 hits (26/man, 1.00/cs), take 356-m hits with 5 casualties (71.2/casualty-wipe)
The Battle in Abadan
1/15/2011 Ibladesh vs. Caligus
CS 820 Org: 95 Wedge Def Sentry
Turn 2: 925 Scored (27.21/man, 1.13/CS) 519-m, 408-a with 19 casualties (48.79/man)
Turn 3: 524 Scored (34.93/man, 1.45/CS) 427-m with 9 casualties (47.44/man)
Turn 4: 333 Scored (55.5/man, 2.3/CS) 112-m with 2 casualties (56/man) retreat
The Battle in Leibo
1/21/2011 Caligus Vs. Ibladesh
CS 545, 20 SF, Org:69 Line Agg Army
Turn 3: 513 Scored (25.65/man, 0.94/CS) 148-a with 3 casualties (49.33/man)
Turn 4: 284 Scored (16.71/man)
Turn 5: 435 Scored (25.59/man) 62-m with 1 casualty (62/man)
Turn 6: 441 Scored (27.56/Man) 422-m with 8 casualties (52.75/man)
Turn 7: 253 Scored (31.63/man) 386-m with 8 casualties (48.25/man-wipe)
The battle in Abadan
1/24/2011 Caligus vs. Ibladesh
CS 512, 19 SF, Org: 92 Wedge Agg Army
Turn 2: 619 Scored (32.58/man, 1.21/CS) 102-m, 486-a with 12 casualties (49/man)
Turn 3: 162 Scored (23.14/man) 110-m with 2 casualties (55/man)
Turn 4: 142 Scored (28.4/man) 44-m with 1 casualty (44/man)
Turn 5: 155 Scored (38.75/man) 237-m with 4 casualties (59.25/man-wipe)
Elite Phalanx
Researcher: Reinen Veritas
Warrior
8 Men: 174CS (C 16%, M 40%, T 80% D 0%) CS/Man: 21.75
24 Men: 461CS (C 18, M 58%, T 80% D 1%) CS/Man: 19.21
The Battle of Abadan
1/15/2011 Ibladesh vs. Caligus
CS: 467 Org: 94% Wedge Def Sentry
Turn 2: 346 Scored (14.42/man, .14/CS) 171-m with 4 casualties (42.75/cas)
Turn 3: 243 Scored (12.15/man, .52/CS) 1387-m with 20 casualties (69.35/cas-wipe)
Isadrillian Powder
Researcher: Dobromir Menethil
36 men : 862CS (C 24% M 100% T 100%)
The DeathWatch Guard
Researcher: Aiden Menethil
30 men : 573CS (C 20% M 87% T 55%)
Hamadan Musketeers
Researchers: Cuthbert von Ulthuan & Audric Murchie
20 men : 426CS (C 56% M 100% T 57%)
30 men : 793CS (C 95% M 100% T 67%)
High hit rate archers in all battles, never entered the melee preferring to act as archers. High hits per man, decent defence: between 26 and 37 hits per casualty.
The First Battle Fontan:
Attacker; 46 SF; Line; Normal; 64% Organisation; 920CS; (20 CS/man)
Turn 1: Score 218 hits (range) (4.74 hits/man)
Turn 3: Take 310 hits from archer fire, which cause 7 casualties (44.3hits/casualty)
Turn 4: Score 266 hits (range) (6.82 hits/man)
Turn 5: Score 291 hits (range) (7.46 hits/man)
The Second Battle Fontan:
Attacker; 43 SF; Line; Normal; 64% Organisation; 861CS; (20 CS/man)
Turn 1: Score 206 hits (range) (4.79 hits/man) Take 75 hits from archer fire, which cause 2 casualties (37.5hits/casualty)
Turn 2: Score 411 hits (range) (10 hits/man)
Turn 3: Score 233 hits (range) (5.68 hits/man)
Turn 4: Score 242 hits (range) (5.90 hits/man) Take 51 hits from archer fire, which cause 1 casualties (51 hits/casualty)
The Branded Ones
Researcher: Erazem Luegg
10 men : 247CS (C 17% M 84% T 85%) 25 CS/man
20 men : 445CS (C 21% M 84% T 85%) 22 CS/man
23 men : 504CS (C 22% M 84% T 85%) 25 CS/man
Seems just like a regular infantry unit when fighting in an open field (Battle in Aestus, Battles in Leibo). Strong in defense (cca 45 hits per casualty)
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Battle in Aestus report:
nb1 Attacker; 12 Monsters; line; 6 % org; 635 CS
nb9 Defender; 23 SF; line; normal; 94% organization; 532 CS
turn 2: The Branded Ones (9) score 153 hits (6.7/man, 0.29/CS). The Branded Ones (9) take 38 hits in close combat, which cause 1 casualties.
turn 3: The Branded Ones (9) score 289 hits (13.1/man, 0.57/CS).
turn 4: The Branded Ones (9) score 289 hits (13.1/man, 0.57/CS). The Branded Ones (9) take 16 hits in close combat. No casualties.
The First Battle in Leibo:
Defender; 25 SF; wedge; aggressive; 70% organization; 653CS
turn 2: score 418 hits (16.72/man, 0.64/man), take 85 hits with 2 casualties (42,5/casualty)
The Second Battle in Leibo:
Defender; 25 SF; line; defensive; 97% organization; 656CS
turn 1: score 296 hits (11.48/man, 0.45/man), take 383 hits with 8 casualties (47.88/casualty)
turn 2: score 152 hits (8.94/man), take 508 hits with 11 casualties (46.18/casualty)
turn 3: score 92 hits (15.33/man), take 64 hits with 1 casualties (64/casualty)
Honour and Recruitment
Researcher: Erazem Luegg
As can be found on Honour and Recruitment page the general formula seems to follows:
Number of men = Factor * Honour + Offset
Unit type | Factor | Offset |
---|---|---|
Infantry | 1.5 | 22 |
Archers | 1.5 | 22 |
Cavalry | 0.5 | 7 |
Special Forces* | 0.5 | 7 |
* Suspected, will be tested in the future.
My unit (max 23 men, 32 honour) has the same limitation as the formula for Cavalry (23 = 0.5*32+7), so it is reasonable to conclude the formula is the same. This will be easily verified with a different honour. We should also check if Cavaliers get additional allowance as per cavalry.
Confirmed: 26 men = 0.5 * 38 honour + 7