Talk:Morek

Nice to see you are using the same kind of Template like i did with Madina, maybe it'll start a hype for Dwilight realms :P --Vlad 10:58, 30 October 2007 (CET)

I just now saw this... To be honest wikicode totally dumbfounds me. I am currently takeing bits and pieces from other pages and editing their context aswell as some asthetics to make it as unique as possable. Clearly I am failing :P However I think the newer look is a step in the right direction.--Devercia 08:09, 3 January 2008 (CET)

Player list

please post your character here if you are an early member wanting to coordinate Morek's rule.

• Deverka Cryfdwr: First of the Moreki, and bannerwright of Morek.(contest winner)
• Mathurin Hossenfeffer: Prophet and visionary, drawn to Dwilight by dreams of the Bloodstars.

Religion

Perhaps change one of the stars to 'belligerous' (I realize this isn't a real word, its based off belligerent which means war-like), as to represent war? The stars seem a slight strange to me, with one of insanity, another tantamount depression and still another to represent fortune.

Unless we turn our wanna-be Teutonic knights into crazed vikings, our wars won't be religiously motivated - no, 'Relm X is rallying under 'evil religion', the Belligerent/Belligerous star commands us to clean these lands of those heathens!'

Well I guess that is possible without a renamed star, but a star promoting war would make it slightly more believable, as opposed to :

"THE TIME IS ALMOST RIGHT! We strike the heathens at dawn as opposed to now because Auspicious star says we shall encounter fortune then!" (Auspicious)

"The heathens are rallying under 'evil religion', RAWRRRR! The spirit of NORLAND has inflamed us! CHARGE!!!" (Maddening)

"Yeah. They're evil. I guess we should get them...but then...I'd have to stop composing depressing poetry and...*tear* " (Austere)

Definitions :

Austere : Austere, bleak, spartan, stark all suggest lack of ornament or adornment and of a feeling of comfort or warmth.

Auspicious : Attended by favorable circumstances

Maddening : Crazy!

--Anabellium 04:01, 16 January 2008 (CET)

"The constellation curiously hangs permanently over west Dwilight." From an astrological point of view... that's just impossible. -Chénier 04:24, 16 January 2008 (CET)

Obviously the celestial sphere upon which the blood stars are affixed does not rotate like the other crystal spheres. And since the celestial sphere doesn't rotate, the constellation is static above the central, and unchanging Earth. Any other point of view is obviously heretical and must be punished to prevent the wrath of the gods from raining down upon us. --Indirik 14:55, 16 January 2008 (CET)

Maybe...Dwilight floats and doesn't revolve with the rest of the Earth? But then...how then would it rotate...hmm...erm...

AH HA! HYPOGENERATORS! FLOATYPACKS 2000 X3! MEGAMAN ROCKET BOOTS! DBZ POWERS!

Eh..heh..Don't worry, we'll think of something... maybe the divine will of the gods forces the stars to stick to the sky as punishment for stealing fire from Olympus or something...--Anabellium 05:21, 16 January 2008 (CET)

hence why it does so "curiously." It also gives reason why other continants have never encountered them. Technicly they could be an syncrinous orbital feature. It is in the universe, and therefor could be anything.

Not a constalation. I can't be an oddity, it's simply impossible, unless Dwilight is the north/south pole, which judging by the ammount of snow, it isn't. -Chénier 06:06, 16 January 2008 (CET)

Very amusing oppinion Annabellium. I very much want to avoid Nordlandism and emoness. On the otherhand I also would like a certain grimness and something fear inspiring to the Dwili, reason for the players to be nobles. The idea of a belligerant star is also good but it may be too polarized if thats the right word. I certainly don't want the stars to have meanings like war, Peace, and something else totally differant. I think haveing them have more than one trait associated with them is a good idea as it has more oppertunities for it. Maddening could be associated with many things but it is as you put it, what it is. Belligerant I beleive is too singular in meaning. A maddening star could be the focus of many occupations, a belligerant one, few. I do like the actually word you choose however. I rather liked your opposing RP examples as far as them being left up to the interpretation of the speaker. Ofcourse the second and third were rediculous, but certainly got your point across. Maddening could do with a change of name, and Austere with an complete overhaul. Auspicious seems fine to me.--Devercia 05:31, 16 January 2008 (CET)

Yes, that seems reasonable, seeing as Maddening at this point gives the illusion of some sort of berserk state - at least at first glance. Austere...I'm guessing the original intention was a relaxing sort of thing. Maybe the Contemplative star?--Anabellium 07:10, 16 January 2008 (CET)

Maddening is great, it has all sorts of implications of lust and extreme behaviour above and beyond just war. It could also be seen as a force for sheer chance and luck, random emotion triumphing over order and reason, all that kind of good stuff.

Auspicious I think is absolutely fine, it suggests good fortune but based more on ordered preparation than the wild chance of Maddening. It's a time for carefully planned ventures, for new beginnings, for begetting children or signing alliances.

Austere is ok, but not so interesting. Perhaps indicative of the need for a focus on the spiritual rather than the mundane?

As for the impossibility of the constellation hanging in the one spot over the horizon, I don't know that we care about real world physics and whether or not there is such an explanation, but if we do, they could be moons in a geostationary orbit (a fact which we medieval types would never actually know). But like I say, we don't really need to worry about why they don't behave like other stars... that's surely part of their mystery? --Mathurin 17:54, 16 January 2008 (CET)

I agree with this. There's no reason that we need to follow RL astrophysics. The stars are there, and they behave thus, and that's why they are worshiped. After all, only the gods could have made them so unlike all the others, and thus they are obviously divine symbols. --Indirik 17:59, 16 January 2008 (CET)

You don't even have to depart from RL physics to do it. They don't have to be actual stars, do they? So long as they appear to be stars, the people on the ground would be perfectly justified in calling them stars - regardless of what they truly are. After all, nobody's going to be inventing space shuttles or complex telescope equipment to do a serious investigation. All the people on the ground need know is that "stars" are up there that don't behave like ordinary stars. If I were a priest there, I'd also be claiming they had divine influence.