Talk:Volcanic Hot Newsletter/February '07 issue

Bureaucrat tortured to death

I don't know many bureacrats who carry poisoned daggers and sneak around the enemy camps of High Council members. The fact that your propaganda is forced to lie in order to whine about this incident tells me much about the truth.

You blamed Redspan for your own rape and pillage of Redspan. "After all," you say cheekily, "If they had just paid us lots of gold, they could have avoided this." Well, Darka. This one is just as much your fault. "After all, if your judge hadn't decided to dissolve the Prisoner Pact, you could have avoided this." How does that appeal to you? There's also, "After all, if your realm hadn't decided to send Assassins after High Council members, you could have avoided this." Like that one? Or how about, "After all, if your realm hadn't decided to rape and pillage in Abington and Abington's allies, you could have avoided this." Sound familiar? House Olik 16:48, 4 February 2007 (CET)

As far as the official records are concerned, he was a bureacrat. Whether or not he liked to stab people in the dark, he still held the position of a bureacrat. As such, what is written in the article is truthful: "a Darkan noble was tortured to death by the Abington judge". --Jezralhm 01:40, 5 February 2007 (CET)

Madness. He was an infiltrator, was captured for being an infiltrator, and had a history of being an infiltrator. The only thing you get from lying about it with this "official record" nonsense is to maybe manipulate people into believing he was not a criminal. Ah well, in my "official record" you are a donkey's backside, and therefore it is truthful to write that you are. House Olik 02:34, 5 February 2007 (CET)

(OOC: official records = Battlemaster's records - see player account profile.) Now now, dear noble, name calling is what children revert to. --Jezralhm 07:16, 5 February 2007 (CET)

Cost of the War

What is the cost of Pride and honour? Also out of curiosity how much did it cost to outfit your army? And to maintain it for at least 3 weeks down south? ScottSabin 19:16, 4 February 2007 (CET)

You probably can't put a price tag on such abstract concepts. As for the army, I don't know. Large amounts of RedSpan militia and mobile forces were also killed, but I left them out because factoring those in would be too much of an estimation. The same goes for the Darkan army. Like it says in the article, it's a rough estimate. I'm not sure on the wall costs either, but if you can provide me with accurate figures I'd be more than happy to use them. - LilWolf 19:27, 4 February 2007 (CET)

Im not sure about acurate figures but if memory serves me right, it is about 150-200 gold for Sullenport and 200 for Stargard. Thats per section. If you could find out how much the army cost, it would be great. Ive always wanted to see how much you spend this far from home on mercenary status for a week or more. ScottSabin 19:31, 4 February 2007 (CET)

What is the cost of Pride and honour? You got it right in front of you, Tony, at least 4700 gold because your "pride and honour" (your stubbornness) prevented you from doing what was fair and right. in AJ's case. Van Peteghem 19:49, 4 February 2007 (CET)

Fair? You mean demanding 1200 gold from us to cover the cost a bounty that was only 600 gold? yes, thats fair alright. ScottSabin 19:52, 4 February 2007 (CET)

Considering all the collateral damage done aside from the bounty collection during peace, I would call that a fair price indeed. Van Peteghem 19:53, 4 February 2007 (CET)

Collateral damage? Did i miss somehting in this? The only collateral damage was when you murdered our peasents. ScottSabin 19:55, 4 February 2007 (CET)

Collateral damage as in Darka not having a Banker for two days, and everything that went lost that the banker has to watch frequently, as well as the lack of his bureaucratic skills, unit payment and mental and physical cures, and not to mention the agression during peace. Don't be mistaken, the collateral damage you are talking about is the result of not paying the fine. Van Peteghem 19:59, 4 February 2007 (CET)

Wow Two days...Im sure all your peasents starved in those two days...wow big crisis there! Unit Payment? Now your useing excuses...he would have had to pay those men if he was wounded or not...it makes no difference. Try some better reasons next time...no one buys this crap anymore. ScottSabin 20:03, 4 February 2007 (CET)

Noone needs to buy the crap anymore, the war has been fought already. You asked for reasons, I gave you reasons. You don't find them suitable, fine, I don't care, nobody cares, it's done, and it turned out to be a little higher than the initial price... Van Peteghem 20:05, 4 February 2007 (CET)

I can't speak for my fellow Darkans, but I'm leaving RedSpan with more cash gold than I had when I left Azzal, and I left Azzal with a pretty elite bunch of men. Is that a profit? Why, I think it is. And then I'm not talking about the two weeks worth of taxes that I still need to cash. Sure, I lost thirty-one out of thirty-four men, but hey, we all have to die sometime, and it might as well happen when you're enjoying yourself. And fresh mercenaries are abundant. Make no mistake, goat people, this war didn't cost us too much, if anything. Especially when compared to what we dealt to you. -Pizarro 23:06, 4 February 2007 (CET)

Bwahahahaha Bwhahaha BWAH! Vashmere 23:14, 4 February 2007 (CET)

My pockets are heavier than when I left Azzal. Morale of my men have been rather high even though they are not set to be paid as mercenaries. --Jezralhm 01:40, 5 February 2007 (CET)

Yes, but what you arnt sayign is how much that unti cost to recruit and keep. You are all saying that you left Azzal with less gold than yopu take back, that may be true. But you still arnt saying your cost to fight this war. Are you trying to cover something up? ScottSabin 11:07, 5 February 2007 (CET)

Left with about 2 weeks pay, so that's about 100 gold. I return with a little under 200 in gold and bonds. Recruiting a fresh unit (which I intended to do - poorly armored unit) should cost about 150 gold. Assuming taxes came in twice or thrice (~60 gold), I'm guessing I would return after recruitment to be a gain of 40 gold... personally (I did get taxed rather heavily). If we didn't march, certainly I would have more gold to do not much with. --Jezralhm 11:38, 5 February 2007 (CET)

(I did get taxed rather heavily). Thats the only problem. Would you say this is the same for the rest of your fellow nobles? ScottSabin 11:46, 5 February 2007 (CET)

Most likely so, as the tax gold came in we didn't have much chance to withdraw our bonds. Recently I got 14 gold taxed from my bonds. Still, the tax distribution meant that wasn't such a substantial amount as can be perceived. --Jezralhm 11:52, 5 February 2007 (CET)

Ah ok. Thanks for the info :D ScottSabin 12:01, 5 February 2007 (CET)

We declare ONE-ON-ONE war and you goats go and bring in allies into it while you call us bullies. so we do the same and you whine about us bringing allies. We take two months to strategically organize an assault that leaves you mocking us as cowards who are not coming, and when we show we are called slaughters of the innocent. We beat the SNOT out of your little goat-arses and leave with wagons of your gold, living and dead goat meat, AND smiles and songs from all our men who return with victory on their breath, weapons and faces, and YOU start to question the taxing and recruitment fees for the war. I AM SICK of your CRAP! This pansy way of twisting words and flipping rocks in search of grubs to nit pick and swallow is a direct indication on why your people fell in this war. Too much time crying and looking for something to write, not enough time in the war fields kicking arse and taking names. You were CRUSHED, we were victorious. Your own allies turned on you and took advantage of your fallen walls to help loot you. Why? Because no man fears a fracken goat or an idiot who hails one as a God. What next? After the 6 months of ceasefire you will be saying we have been hiding from your savage farm animals you worship? A weak kingdom worships weak symbols. A strong nation eats goat meat tonight. I have over 100 of your holy goats penned in my personal slaughter house and I choose from them the same way our armies picked what peasants to rape or burn. Go lick your wounds and stop using those tongues for anything more. Foolish losers in war.Vashmere 14:54, 5 February 2007 (CET)