Talk:Itorunt Informer/August '06

Peace with Perdan

Alex, you guys are taking off the claim on Lorient. --Atticus

Yep, sorry, I haven't proofread this yet. I have another three articles lined up or so. --The1exile 15:51, 1 August 2006 (CEST)

Sacking of Perdan

Also, Perdan was not sacked "for a full day". The turn immediately following the Sorion/Fontan victory, The Perdan reinforcements arrived and completely obliterated the attackers. They had looting rights in Partora for exactly 12 hours. I think we can all agree that 12 hours is not "a full day". --Indirik 03:11, 2 August 2006 (CEST)

It is a bit of creative writing, but the "sacking" refers also to the first battle in which they damaged the fortifications hugely. Damaging the walls could be construed as sacking; add to that the reinforcements, and the 12 hours of looting time. --The1exile 03:19, 2 August 2006 (CEST)

Interesting interpretation. I'll have to remember the creative math when reading your other articles.--Indirik 03:31, 2 August 2006 (CEST)

Yssarian Peace

Aeillien claims that Caligus has a decision to make now, not six months ago. He states that Caligus' current decision to make is: "The choice for Caligus is clear, some honor in defeat, or total dishonor leading to total destruction." The clear implication is that Caligus *can* make a choice to accept defeat with honor. And what, pray tell, is that choice? To surrender their capital and only city? That's not defeat with honor, it is suicide. If you are taking historical actions into consideration, then the current statement should be that Caligus previously had the opportunity to surrender with honor, and chose to die fighting instead. The current "choice" is as I described: Die or we'll kill you. That is clearly Hobson's choice. Thus, it is no choice. Yssaria intends the death of Caligus. Claiming that Yssaria is currently giving them a choice is as I said, merely the executioner's warrant masquerading as a peace treaty. Since both paths lead to the same ends, then the obvious choice is to chose the path that allows at least some small hope of survival. That path is the path of resistance. Given their recent string of military victories, their destruction through military means is far from certain. You, Alex, of all people, should understand that. --Indirik 03:29, 2 August 2006 (CEST)

I can only agree with this, Its not really nice to spread incomplete or even false information.
If i have to believe your news paper(s), Caligus is the big demon that caused all wars and started everything.
Wich is just simply false if you know the history of the EC.
Please keep it with facts, because these newspapers are turned into complete propaganda machines.
--Nosferatus

Why bother? This (and a number of other papers on the EC) have no journalistic integrity, they are simply highly skewed and opinionated propaganda rags. They will say whatever they want to say and call it truth. Truthiness in action! -Balewind

It is not suicide, not if Nosferatus here would tell you his negotiations with LoF to have a townsland returned to them. They have had the terms for a long time, signed their own death warrant; so the terms are not changing, why should they? When these terms were made it was made perfectly clear that Caligus would have to have somewhere to go. They would have to find it themselves.

And of course, don't forget, it was Caligus along with Ubnet who fought them in the beginning. --The1exile 13:50, 2 August 2006 (CEST)

Caligus

Well, I think they're doomed now. Since you guys aren't fighting us (Perdan) you can put your whole army to killing Caligus now, I reckon? -- Atticus

Smart comment, Atticus. As you can see in my most recentarticle, we have 17K CS moving from one region (not the capital, by the way), while Caligus had what, 12K CS in their capital three days back, with neglible forces in otehr regions such as Supra (which they withdrew from). And thats not even counting what we have leaving the capital after taxes, what Yssaria is brining, and what was still in transit at time of writing.

And by the way, thanks for Bisciye, Dal is mate of mine and a very worthy lord of that region. --The1exile 17:35, 5 August 2006 (CEST)

One of our TL's got confused when it said we gave you guys bisicye, and the queen had to actually remind the poor guy of what the hell was going on.

I don't see you guys being able to hold onto Bisciye, It's waaaay far away from your capital. Which, by the way, your capital is very nicely placed. I suggested way back to the realm that we make peace with you guys because there wasn't a chance in hell that we could make it all the way down to itorunt to whoop - I mean fight you guys. Perdans capital is a damn bad spot, and so is Caligus'. :-/ -- Atticus