User talk:TanSerrai

Would this happen to be the same person who played Tan o'Kammar in Riombara a while ago? If so, the realm invites you to return, and will welcome you back :-) --Anaris 3 February 2006 01:24 (CET)

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I read what you put on Anaris' user talk page. I am glad to see you have returned. Look forward to once again seeing you in Riombara. Hope you iwll know however, that we have grown to some slightly new customs. I am a heavy duelist (Character of Ghostly), We have several new Dukes that were once just normal TLs that you will surely remember. However, we opened an Academy in rememberance of the name of Tan o'Kammar, one day hoping for his return. I think our pleas are finally being met. ;) --- Ghostly

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Glad you will be returning. I hope you'll be doing a Riombara page just like you are Tarelium to fill in some black history records. ;) --- Ghostly

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Am looking forward to return to Riombara very much - and aye, I'd like to write down those parts of it's history that I do remember...glad you are still with Riombara ;) --- TanSerrai

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Why would I leave? Its such a great realm! --- Ghostly

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Hey TanSerrai, you are missing quite a bit of History in regards to Eno Chia/Luz de Bia lol. I can help you if you want, but you simply have to promise not to twist my words, and state them as are.

Things I can help you with:

More Info on why Eno Chia went to war with "Riombara"

More Info on Ghrenk's relocation--it was I who brokered the entire agreement

More Info on Enweil's involvements

More Info on Volghor's involements

More Info on to why Luz de Bia was created

More Info as to why Riombara STILL exists--yes, she was defeated, she surrendered, and was SPARED by the people of Luz de Bia. I can give you inside info on that because LDP wanted to wipe them out, but a whole democratic process was started, and the people voted in favor of exiling Riombara to the Islands instead...and LDB did just that.

More Info on to WHAT was SUPPOSED to happen on that Island had LDB not left because the gods said the Land would be Consumed...the veterans of LDB left towards Taselak on the SWI...so her Kingdom was left in the hands of mostly inexperienced TLs, and the Kingdom's destiny was forever changed. I wish I knew what happened with Luz de Bia...she was supposed to be one of the most powerful realms on that Island, with the other most powerful realms as her allies, all with the intention of promoting stability, and safety..under an allied world-order.

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Contact me if you are interested, I reside in Abbington now, in the very place that reminds me of "home," Luz de Bia.

I would say that Riombara exists again, rather than that she still exists, as the realm was destroyed during the First Invasion.

Luz de Bia is currently somewhat neutral in the various conflicts that have come up since the Second Invasion, but Riombara (under my leadership) has been cautiously attempting to make friends with them. --Anaris 6 February 2006 22:29 (CET)

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Amazing lol. I thought that Riombara still existed, like Luz de Bia does...like I mentioned...I can only help with all things pertaining to Luz and Riombara relations--and the neighbors around us--to the point of my departure. I just recently learned that Luz de Bia was a democracy...I will turn in my grave for that one.

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Herkan d'Serrai does send greetings, Lady Doc's Biatch!

You honour my dead father Tan o'Kammar with your offer of additional information. However I cannot guarantee that all that you send will be used word for word. Or how much of your information can be included. I can, however guarantee that your words won't be twisted. But I'll let my father speak....

(A distant hollow voice can be heard)

Greetings, Lady!

It is correct that you did leave the realm you did create right before the first undead invasion. However, you do your nobles injustice if you call them inexperienced. They managed to survive the first undead invasion and their diplomatic contacts did take a turn for the better after you left. Danang Isig was a noble king, capable of showing greatness even to enemies - a trait that we never saw you exhibit.

As to your plans: We did know full well what you intended. A strong superrealm, spanning the whole southeast. Allied with other superrealms, resulting in an enforced, stiffling peace. What might be difficult to grasp, is that we did not _like_ your plans. Neither being ruled by you, nor having your vision of a realm dominating all.

In my experience, troopleaders who are free to speak up, who share in the fate of a realm instead of only following orders will bring a realm to greatness. Not simple iron rule. This is where Riombara and Luz did differ - and this is why we did survive your aggression.

And you did let Riombara survive not through any generosity, but because noone but you saw any use in continuing your war.

And now that we are talking about this....(the hollow voice has been getting fainter and fainter until it can't be heard anymore)

(a slightly embarrased Herkan speaks up again)

...Well...my father always was a bit longwinded, I fear it has not gotten better after his death...if your offer of additional information still stands, I would very much like to accept it.

TanSerrai 7 February 2006 17:44 (CET)

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Your father I will not forget, Good ol Tan Senior ;) Many opposed my vision, my will, and my goals....but they were all defeated. Those that shared in the belief that world peace through armed security was a good thing, prospered, and those that did not...perished. Those that were left behind when the Vanguard joined me on a ship towards Taselak--the very internal organs of the realm--were younger and inexperienced, and that allowed the changes to take place..a Democracy...mutual peace instead of accepted Mercy with Riombara...all these things, went against everything Luz de Bia stood for. However because my elite council and followers left Luz de Bia, we were able to mold Taselak on the South-West Island with our principles, and strong sense of moral discipline..and were able to defeat the war god there, and were allowed to go free...those were bloody days...but I will help you as best I can. You will get nothing short of the blunt truth, however cold it may appear to be, I live a certain way, a way that most others cannot understand, but my soul will always be: uncorruptable.

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Hey tan, you have a LOT of errors--or you purposely are propagating Riombara propaganda--about Luz de Bia's involvements, and my own people's thoughts about our war.

To clarify:

1. Balin grew sick of Riombara, he complained to me every day, about how worthless they were, always hiding like rats. He finally decided he hated Riombara, and wanted to help destroy them...so he joined our ranks after his betrayal to Riombara

2. Luz de Bia NEVER turned a TL away, be he former enemy or former ally, it was our OPEN BORDER policy. We had several former Riombarians in our ranks, and former Eno Chians...none were turned away, all were given a chance--very rare nowadays for a realm to do that.

3. My people never questioned our war with Riombara, and we /did/ force Riombara to a surrender, and did permanently occupy your city, we just couldn't successfully take it over for quite sometime because the city hated us too much.

4. I CHOSE to put the fate of Riombara to a popular vote, although if I had decided to erase them from the Island, my people would not of rebelled against me...or hated me...we would have simply done what we said we were going to do. What I did instead, was argue why we could spare Riombara, and why we could wipe them out. I did not vote. I simply listened to what my people said, and finally, it was decided, that Luz de Bia would be an even GREATER realm if we showed our enemies mercy, and if they accepted the lifetime non-aggression pact, and if ever violated, would result in the genocide of the Riombarian people.

Aside from that, it looks great...although you also did not emphasize nearly enough why Luz de Bia was formed, you do know that we were formed BECAUSE Riombar was formed and VIOLATED and agreement with Eno Chia?