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:::::::Anyway, I did not name this paper. Sadi did. Yet I defend it because it has held the name all this time, even survived being moved from the tiki (so I assume Tom does know about the name. Afterall, he did invite the newspaper editors to join the wiki and transfer their papers here a whole month ''before'' opening it to the public.) More to the point though, there are countless modern day 'gestapos' functioning all over the world. Maybe not so overtly in the western world, but quite obviously elsewhere. So to be honest, I see little point in trying to hide the memory of just one of these depraved organisations. It does little good and doesn't change the fact that humanity still hasn't learned. And it is not like by reading this paper you are reading nazi propaganda either. This is just a fictional newspaper, in a fictional game. So why the crusade? --[[User:Revan|Revan]] 04:32, 19 January 2008 (CET)
 
:::::::Anyway, I did not name this paper. Sadi did. Yet I defend it because it has held the name all this time, even survived being moved from the tiki (so I assume Tom does know about the name. Afterall, he did invite the newspaper editors to join the wiki and transfer their papers here a whole month ''before'' opening it to the public.) More to the point though, there are countless modern day 'gestapos' functioning all over the world. Maybe not so overtly in the western world, but quite obviously elsewhere. So to be honest, I see little point in trying to hide the memory of just one of these depraved organisations. It does little good and doesn't change the fact that humanity still hasn't learned. And it is not like by reading this paper you are reading nazi propaganda either. This is just a fictional newspaper, in a fictional game. So why the crusade? --[[User:Revan|Revan]] 04:32, 19 January 2008 (CET)
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Boohoo, people die and you deal with it. This is about a game, and if you were really so worried the slaughter of people and culture. You wouldn't be playing a game that simulates the exact same thing. My solution to your feuck'd up problem, go kill everyone in the whole world, then you think will be solved. And the continued cycle of humans killing things will finally end.
  
 
== Stopped publishing? ==
 
== Stopped publishing? ==
  
 
Bring back the bloodthirsty, gory and downright interesting stories of the GGG! :) --[[User:The1exile|The1exile]] 22:24, 17 November 2006 (CET)
 
Bring back the bloodthirsty, gory and downright interesting stories of the GGG! :) --[[User:The1exile|The1exile]] 22:24, 17 November 2006 (CET)

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This won't really be relevant until the wiki goes live but I thought I'd put the question down now to all the future reporters of the Gazette heh, so i don't forget >.<

Anyway, considering the huge volumes of news that have been recorded in the last few months, perhaps it would be wise to make two issues a month in the future, separating them into Early(1st two weeks of the month) and Late Editions(last two weeks of the month.) It would prevent any readers getting bogged down in too much text and perhaps will provide a tidier appearance overall. Thoughts? --Revan August 24, 2005 01:27 (CEST)

I agree with you Revan. By the way, how is death treating ya? --Shaman September 1 2005
That's Partially explained here ;) and yes I think next month We'll be dividing the papers up that way. Giblots got way too much stuff going on lately heh.. --Revan September 2, 2005 02:24 (CEST)

Two Giblot Newspapers?

Considering that there are fairly even Good and Evil groups of people in Giblot. And that the GGG is primarily a more evil orientated newspaper. I was thinking perhaps it would be a good idea to conjure up another paper for Giblot that dealt with events in a good way.?


For Example:


  • GGG - Random embarked upon yet another delightful act of cruelty today! This time he injured 17 people in one go. Reports are hazy but most are believed to have been children - kids are brats anyway! Thanks for ridding us of yet another blight upon our lands Random!
  • Rival Paper - Random went on a sick rampage today where he injured 17 innocents. How long will it be until the Council cracks down on this murderer? We simply just don't know how Random sleeps at night with all this on his conscience!


Of course articles won't be identical or anything but with two papers and two different sets of news there are both points of view available and they won't end up clashing terribly with each other that way


Thoughts?


--Revan September 11, 2005 03:20 (CEST)

Naming....

You're comfortable with naming your virtual organisation, after one of the most infamous, inhumane organisations of all time ?

Did it occur to you that there is a very good chance of offending many people ? I'm not as such offended, but I do find this distasteful, but if this organisation had played a part in my family history, ( with hundreds of European players, it's inevitable that someone has this organisation as a real part of their family history) I certainly wouldn't see any humour in it. mcsporran 2 May 2006 09:54 (CEST)

Sadi SaDiablo gave this newspaper it's name way back on the tiki a couple or so years ago now, so blame Sadi for the perhaps poor naming. However I have kept this newspaper updated for over a real life year now and well..this is the first comment I've seen on the name - Revan May 2, 2006 11:13 (CEST)
I support the idea of changeing the name for RL reasons. Too many people suffered from this organisation to make any "fun" of it. It is of the same bad taste and lack of tact as Prince Harry disguised for Hitlerjugend for carneval party. Or a techno party "Houseschwitz"... Anna 01:28, 27 May 2006 (CEST)
Just wanted to add my voice to the people disappointed with the choice in names, and the fact that you still haven't done anything about it. -- Jmadsen 02:02, December 14, 2007
Firstly, just to say that this paper has been defunct from September 2006. Objections to the name or not it's not really being put out there anymore. Secondly, the word 'gestapo' is being used here in a colloquial, pop-culture type way. The GGG was pretty tyrannical in it's way, evil, very certain of it's own opinions. Thats why the name works out. Yes, what the real Gestapo did is deplorable, but arguably the same is true of the behaviour of the Editor of this paper, who was pretty much a cannibal and someone who got his kicks out of the butchery of many scribes and peasants. This was quite a dark newspaper.. --Revan 12:06, 14 December 2007 (CET)
That's the most asinine thing I've ever heard. 'Pop culture'? I wonder if Tom knows about this paper - considering that it's probably against the law in Germany to use this kind of name. Most references to Hitler, the Nazi Party, etc. are. You should realize how deeply offensive this is to most people and have the courtesy of just removing it without trying to defend something this bad. --Jmadsen
'Yes, what the real Gestapo did is deplorable, but arguably the same is true of the behaviour of the Editor of this paper, who was pretty much a cannibal and someone who got his kicks out of the butchery of many scribes and peasants. This was quite a dark newspaper..'
Basically your saying that because the editor role played himself as a cannibal and a scribe killer in a virtual GAME, that it is okay to don the name of the organization who sponsored the REAL LIFE slaughter of millions of Jews, Russians, Gypsies, disabled, political prisoners and others by the SS and the Gestapo?
'Secondly, the word 'gestapo' is being used here in a colloquial, pop-culture type way..'
Obviously naming the paper after the Gestapo is okay because these days, naming things after literal death machines is cool. Perhaps you support the genocide of jews, in a hip, pop-culture type way. You'll find that many people don't.
One last thing, I have no doubt the statistics of 'million' has no effect on you guys. Hey, I've killed millions of Nazis in those WWII shootem'ups right?
Heres an exercise : Construct a lifestory of an imaginary person. His childhood, college life, marriage, worklife... Dwell on this image, of a successful everyday man baking bread or selling pencils for a minute. Now picture him getting captured by the SS and sent to a death camp and being gassed. Add some shrieks of anguish for good measure. Good, you imagined the life and death of one person. Quite a story, ended rather abruptly. Now realize theres over a billion more just like him, whether shot on the battlefield, starved or worked to death or gassed. Perhaps you can imagine the enourmity and vileness of the Nazis now. If you can't do it again until you either do, or reach one billion. Because quite Frankly, there is no excuse for having a name like 'Gestapo'.
Get rid of the name. --Anabellium 02:52, 19 January 2008 (CET)
Oh, I'm sorry. Obviously I should remember the events of 60-70 years ago, when countless millions died for land and conquest, with a little more relish and empathy. Or perhaps not. It's depressing enough, and nothing I will ever do or experience will ever give me some feeling of what those times were like, or how horrifying it was to see such a massive waste of lives. Better to live in the present and look to a brighter future I think.
Anyway, I did not name this paper. Sadi did. Yet I defend it because it has held the name all this time, even survived being moved from the tiki (so I assume Tom does know about the name. Afterall, he did invite the newspaper editors to join the wiki and transfer their papers here a whole month before opening it to the public.) More to the point though, there are countless modern day 'gestapos' functioning all over the world. Maybe not so overtly in the western world, but quite obviously elsewhere. So to be honest, I see little point in trying to hide the memory of just one of these depraved organisations. It does little good and doesn't change the fact that humanity still hasn't learned. And it is not like by reading this paper you are reading nazi propaganda either. This is just a fictional newspaper, in a fictional game. So why the crusade? --Revan 04:32, 19 January 2008 (CET)

Boohoo, people die and you deal with it. This is about a game, and if you were really so worried the slaughter of people and culture. You wouldn't be playing a game that simulates the exact same thing. My solution to your feuck'd up problem, go kill everyone in the whole world, then you think will be solved. And the continued cycle of humans killing things will finally end.

Stopped publishing?

Bring back the bloodthirsty, gory and downright interesting stories of the GGG! :) --The1exile 22:24, 17 November 2006 (CET)