Talk:The Face of Fronen/Edition:11

• Slight difference between losing a random city and losing your capitol to a revolt.--Dalakar 08:50, 16 October 2007 (CEST)

True, Unger was a totaly difrent story, revolted due incompetence from the Valentics not due starvation and continues daimon attacks.

Mhed also managed to defend her self once, Unger was mostly completly defenseles. --Vlad 11:08, 16 October 2007 (CEST)

Although many human Beluaterran nations oppose and detest the Daimons, as faithful readers of this newspaper should know that Sint, Heen, and Vlaanderen have declared armistice with the Daimons. - If you check your battle rumours - Heen has just been fighting Daimons, alongside Neo Grekh (and Ashborn/Old Grekh if it weren't for diplomatic relations) in Vozzessdor. You can check our newspaper for the report. Fun times hey ;) --Thrydwulf Grancourt -- 08:34, 17 October 2007 (CEST)

• Well, you don't contradict yourself in your own newspaper. Besides, it's much more interesting to keep feeding your readers a catchy story. Heen fighting Inferi would only sound dull. Better stick to impulsively sharing ill-fed rumours. Foreign Curs 14:13, 17 October 2007 (CEST)
  • If Jean-Olivier said it, they know it must be true. ;) -Chénier 14:19, 17 October 2007 (CEST)

Eno/Firbalt Duel

As one of the principles involved in the conflict between Sint and the Kingdom of Alluran, I feel it only proper to correct one minor point: I did not challenge Pontifex Bocephus to a duel, I accepted his implicit challenge. Apparently Chancellor Grego did not share the previous few messages with the people of Fronen. Please allow me to provide you with them. First, my message to the rulers of Belauterra:

Letter from Dimian

Message sent to Rulers of this world (23 recipients)

A rebellion is breaking out in Vlaanderen. Earlier today, Arcane has called for an uprising against the current government. Details are still sketchy. And so Vlaanderen gets its just rewards for betraying humanity. As I predicted, mankind will forever remember the daimons conquering and destroying, all under the blood red banner of Vlaanderen. Mark this day well, Bocephus. For such is your fate as well if you fail to march in lockstep to the will of the daimon. You have sold your soul to the daimon, and now he owns you. But it is not yet too late. Cast off your cloak of cowardice and greed. Cast the the daimons forth from your ranks now Bocephus, or all of humanity will pay the price for your arrogance and ignorance.

Dimian (King of Kingdom of Alluran)

And this was Pontifex Bocephus' response:

Letter from Bocephus

Message sent to Rulers of this world (23 recipients)

But it is not yet too late. Cast off your cloak of cowardice and greed You know nothing of our realm or religion. You call me a coward one more time and I might just personally march down there and cast off your entrails after gutting an idiot with a bigger than brain like yourself.

Bocephus (Pontifex of Sint)

I have called Pontifex Bocephus' bluff. He attempts to intimidate the rulers of Beluaterra into remaining silent long enough to allow his daimonic masters to complete their nefarious plans. This cannot be allowed to continue. What other choice could any man with honor do other than to accept his implied challenge? By accepting, I will demonstrate to the entire island of Beluaterra that Bocephus is all bluster. Separate him from the source of his daimonic power and he has no personal strength, honor, or conviction on which to stand. I will stand here in Eno and wait for him to arrive to carry through on his threats. When he does not, the entire island will see him for the coward that he is. When the undead and daimonic invaders have been driven from the island, if he still lives, I shall make the journey to the charred remnants of Firbalt and force him to confront me. --Dimian Indirik, King of Alluran

• Sure, they took over Gethesmene, but that was before those ten other daimons joined them, and that was in the name of their religion and also to harbour a rogue region. The situation like it's now is much different. You do know that no noble of Sint is actually helping those daimons, right? I mean, they're not really taking that whole lot of advantage out of it, are they? Just cautiously sitting in their capital, hoping the daimons don't turn against them. They really seem like the corrupted bastards you think they are, bolstering in their capital in fear. Just to say, you can't stop a daimon from joining your realm. You simply can't. You're blaming Sint for sitting overpowered in their capital, while the daimons are acting all alone. Seriously, if Sint was actually what you claim they are, then their 20.000CS would be right with those daimons taking over regions, which it is not. And the way Bocephus is acting, well if you've got a few rulers like you blaming the guts out of him for something he can't help (even more, for something that he fears himself) is perfectly understandable. Foreign Curs 16:57, 17 October 2007 (CEST)

I fully concur with your assertion that you cannot prevent them from swearing an oath of fealty as an imperial knight. However, you seem to be under the impression that this means that one that happens, there is nothing to be done about it. Bocephus has had innumerable opportunities to have him removed from his realm. Not only has he declined to do so, he has in fact welcomed these daimonic monsters into his realm. He has even begun to boast of the strength which this has lent to his realm. Stop trying to paint Bocephus as victims in this matter. They are willing participants. The entire realm is guilty of collusion in the acts of the daimons. If they take no active part, then they have tacitly agreed in passing that it is acceptable. Every noble in Sint has had multiple opportunities to protest the actions of their government and the presence of daimons amongst their ranks. By their inaction do they signal their complicity and approval. --Dimian Indirik, King of Alluran

Banning them is committing suicide. Besides, how could you dissapprove of your own god? And moreover, where is the protest option for that? Foreign Curs 19:20, 17 October 2007 (CEST)