Talk:Summerdale

"Summerdale is the oldest realm in Dwilight, composed of nobles from the defunct Empire of Springdale." - that is by far not true, Madina, Pel, Morek and Springdale where the first four realms, there technicaly evenly old, although Madina claims to be first. --Vlad 13:50, 4 May 2011 (CEST)

Indeed, that's quite a preposterous claim. Summerdale is, by my count, the ninth oldest realm on Dwilight—out of 17. So it's just about at the halfway mark. --Anaris 14:18, 4 May 2011 (CEST)

Here's my guess at what the statement was trying to do: On the realmlist, realms are listed by numbers increasing from 1 in chronological order by time of creation, 0 being (rogue). At the moment, the 3rd realm is Pian en Luries and the 4th realm is Madina. However, this does not mean that they were not created simultaneously and that, because no two realms can share the same realmID, the arrangement happened to be that way. I believe that Springdale occupied 1 and Morek had 2. In that case, I think what Summerdale is trying to do is borrow the legacy of Springdale. However, it is not Springdale by any account, otherwise it would have realmID 2 and be called Springdale. It is not, and while it can claim its roots from that realm, it cannot justifiably say that it is the oldest realm on Dwilight. Much in the same way, the Morek Empire could claim it draws its origins from Morek, even have the same banner, but it is not the original Morek. If someone became emperor of Rome today and reclaimed all the lands of the Roman Empire at its peak, that would still not be Caesar's empire (Augustus), to give an example. --Qmasterflex86 15:15, 4 May 2011 (CEST)

I based the claim on the in-game Realm List [1], which you can find by going to "Information," then clicking on "Realm List." If this list is wrong, please explain. - Vaylon 13:58, 7 May 2011 (CEST)

Never mind; I see my error now. The "Since" on the chart must refer to government type or ruler, not realm existence. I'll change the article. - Vaylon 21:36, 7 May 2011 (CEST)