Talk:Minas Ithil Messenger/July 06

The violation of the treaty was the end of war treaty (surrender) that ASI signed with Abington. Primarily written by Abington, and equally violated too in the months thereafter. ASI finally reached a boiling point a few months ago when their bankers stated to "Openly steal from ASI so Abington can be fed. Abington must eat, no matter the cost." Then there were murmors that Abington could get away with any other violations because "ASI couldn't do anything about it." ASI decided it was enough...presented her evidence to the EA, and was accepted as a clear violation of the agreement. ASI is no longer bound by that sham of diplomacy, and now sets out to execute Justice. We are grateful that MI has entered this war, and hope she does well down in the South again. DRP Primus Family

ASI violated the treaty as well. Do not play the innocent victim card, Doc. It doesn't work when you're trying to justify a war of aggression to fulfil your endless greed. I doubt you can even produce the text of that treaty or cite which clauses were violated! Olik 20:51, 19 July 2006 (CEST)

Exactly.. ASI is NOT the victim here, by any means whatsoever. ASI infiltrators have been doing deeds and spying and whatnot in Abington lands, as well as I'm sure mini raids of blackmarketeering in the north of the Islands hoping we wouldn't notice. Also, if you're saying that Abington attacked ASI many times during the Treaty then you are insane. Abington tends to get the most new nobles and not all of them are responsible or attentive people. They are new nobles who don't know what the map looks like, much less where to FIND said map, so they know where not to go (or to have knowledge there even ARE restricted areas (other kingdoms) they aren't supposed to go). Accusing Abington for those new nobles going off into ASI lands when they shouldn't, especially when we punish them for doing so, is like accusing the rain for getting you wet... it just happens, so get off your high horse about the matter and stop making this an "ASI is innocent, Abington is guilty", because the only thing Abington is truly guilty of is not souring the minds of other kingdoms against ASI and manipulating good people into evil decisions, just because it benefits ASI or the Primus Family Ego that they pulled it off. Callisto Maximoff Family

Funny..with your "logics" you have just insulted more than half of the Island's Rulers and respective Peoples. No wonder Abington has so many friends...ASI gathered evidence for only TWO months, and it was enough. Imagine if we had kept track from the VERY inception of the treaty? Now ponder this. We only CAUGHT Abbies doing shady things SIX times in regards to our food (Whent he war ended EVERY single ASI region had a 3 month supply, that supply dissapeared, and my capital even starved TWICE because of your thieves)...now you say that WE were stealing YOUR food? That is hog-wash...and to further prove it, how is it that we were "stealing so many times" but never got caught? As for infiltrators, yes, we have had them keeping tabs on your troop movements...but not killing militia--like yours--assaulting troop leaders--like yours, hell, even I got assaulted twice!--or anything else that hurts production/food/etc. I think only ONCE one of my Infiltrators did something in Abington (stole tax gold or something), and I told him to stop...Once...I apologized to Abington and that was that. Now for the many times Abby infiltratators got caught, identified or captured...Abington didn't send a SINGLE letter of satisfaction...ONE got banned for supposedly working for the Black Mamba...what of the other 2 fellas? Armitage tried to lump em together and say they too acted as Black Mambas...but at the time you had 3-4 active infiltrators...they were ALL working for the Black Mambas?? What a pathetic Joke...and for the record, ASI WAS THE VICTIM, but NOT ANYMORE. ASI will die on her feet if need be, we will never sign a surrender, just to have it broken in our faces and have Public officials in Abington gloat "What can ASI do about it, anyway?" DRP Primus Family