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On the first matter, closed borders do not prevent a war.
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==Caligus Is A Beacon of Lies to the World==
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On the first matter, closed borders do not prevent a war.<Br>
 
On the second, CoF had failed by the time we signed peace and Fontan had been reduced to what you see now. We were actually the only realm which helped them during their short spell, name one other realm which aided them directly by attempting to defend their lands.
 
On the second, CoF had failed by the time we signed peace and Fontan had been reduced to what you see now. We were actually the only realm which helped them during their short spell, name one other realm which aided them directly by attempting to defend their lands.
Caligus has never been at war with Sirion, unlike Perdan, who have done exactly what you are accusing Caligus of doing. And the noble accused by Caligus of carrying out the acts in Moyale was fined for the acts, accusations were therefore justified.
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Caligus has never been at war with Sirion, unlike Perdan, who have done exactly what you are accusing Caligus of doing. And the noble accused by Caligus of carrying out the acts in Moyale was fined for the acts, accusations were therefore justified.<br>
On the third matter, would Itorunt let their allies starve? Who's dishonourable now?  This count I will not deny, in fact I am proud of it.
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On the third matter, would Itorunt let their allies starve? Who's dishonourable now?  This count I will not deny, in fact I am proud of it.<br>
Finally on the fourth count, those fine upstanding gentlemen are examples of nobilty. The land was claimed by Caligus at the start of hostilities with Ibladesh yet the governments of Itorunt and Perdan sought to claim the lands unjustly while leaving Caligus to fight Ibladesh in order to free up Itorunt's army. Not once during our "alliance" did Itorunt aide Caligus in battle.
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Finally on the fourth count, those fine upstanding gentlemen are examples of nobilty. The land was claimed by Caligus at the start of hostilities with Ibladesh yet the governments of Itorunt and Perdan sought to claim the lands unjustly while leaving Caligus to fight Ibladesh in order to free up Itorunt's army. Not once during our "alliance" did Itorunt aide Caligus in battle.<br>
  
 
I look forward to reading your surrender, yours, --[[User:Ulthuan|Ulthuan]] 01:28, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 
I look forward to reading your surrender, yours, --[[User:Ulthuan|Ulthuan]] 01:28, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
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:No one wrote that they prevented a war. A diplomat was within Itorunt's borders despite our closed borders policy. This list of crimes, including this very reason, was written as the reasoning for formally expelling diplomats from Itorunt. Then your King claimed this list was false. Does he deny that this existed? Or does he expect us to make exceptions for his diplomats who have no more honor than the rest of Caligus? Either way, this war is being waged by Caligus to force the opening of borders, a domain not belonging to the King.<br>
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:You are either a two-faced liar or a bumbling idiot. The Confederacy of Fontan may not have been expanding, but we were holding onto our two regions while fighting over the third. This was due to the help of several realms, of which I am grateful. Of all realms, Perdan, especially Duke Maelg Vallejo of Perdan City, was most helpful to our effort. Unfortunately, they had such a lengthy distance that assistance was not frequent. Caligus was nearby and could have been their more frequently. Early on, they were. However, when it became apparent their realm would not grow any further, they backed away from it. When an attack on Viseu was planned by myself, your King had Caligus avoid it. It would have been successful had they joined us. I later discovered that Caligus was investigating peace with Fontan. As I mentioned earlier, Perdan assisted. Sirion did as well.<br>
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:Regarding Dewey, you again show that you are either a liar or an idiot. He was not, as reported by your own newspaper, fined for any alleged wounding of the lord. He was fined, without proof as far as I know, of another lord's unfortunate wounding.<br>
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:Itorunt wouldn't go to war with Keplerstan against Evilstani, betray Keplerstani for Evilstani, feed Evilstani, and then declare war against Keplerstan when they got listed feeding their enemy as a crime against Keplerstan.<br>
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:Are these fine examples of nobility the same ones that secede realms and betray oaths to create hated realms from another land? And the fact that you claimed the land only proves the further greed of Caligus. The land has never rightfully been Caligus'. It was Itorunt that defeated Isadril. It was Itorunt that was allied to Fallangard. It was Itorunt that was allied to Yssaria. The only time Caligus ever had Isadril was because of one who betrayed the city to Caligus. It was then returned to Yssaria by the local nobility. Is it not odd how Caligus has only acquired the city through deceitful actions? --[[Vita Family#Hamilton|Hamilton Vita]]

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Caligus Is A Beacon of Lies to the World

On the first matter, closed borders do not prevent a war.
On the second, CoF had failed by the time we signed peace and Fontan had been reduced to what you see now. We were actually the only realm which helped them during their short spell, name one other realm which aided them directly by attempting to defend their lands. Caligus has never been at war with Sirion, unlike Perdan, who have done exactly what you are accusing Caligus of doing. And the noble accused by Caligus of carrying out the acts in Moyale was fined for the acts, accusations were therefore justified.
On the third matter, would Itorunt let their allies starve? Who's dishonourable now? This count I will not deny, in fact I am proud of it.
Finally on the fourth count, those fine upstanding gentlemen are examples of nobilty. The land was claimed by Caligus at the start of hostilities with Ibladesh yet the governments of Itorunt and Perdan sought to claim the lands unjustly while leaving Caligus to fight Ibladesh in order to free up Itorunt's army. Not once during our "alliance" did Itorunt aide Caligus in battle.

I look forward to reading your surrender, yours, --Ulthuan 01:28, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

No one wrote that they prevented a war. A diplomat was within Itorunt's borders despite our closed borders policy. This list of crimes, including this very reason, was written as the reasoning for formally expelling diplomats from Itorunt. Then your King claimed this list was false. Does he deny that this existed? Or does he expect us to make exceptions for his diplomats who have no more honor than the rest of Caligus? Either way, this war is being waged by Caligus to force the opening of borders, a domain not belonging to the King.
You are either a two-faced liar or a bumbling idiot. The Confederacy of Fontan may not have been expanding, but we were holding onto our two regions while fighting over the third. This was due to the help of several realms, of which I am grateful. Of all realms, Perdan, especially Duke Maelg Vallejo of Perdan City, was most helpful to our effort. Unfortunately, they had such a lengthy distance that assistance was not frequent. Caligus was nearby and could have been their more frequently. Early on, they were. However, when it became apparent their realm would not grow any further, they backed away from it. When an attack on Viseu was planned by myself, your King had Caligus avoid it. It would have been successful had they joined us. I later discovered that Caligus was investigating peace with Fontan. As I mentioned earlier, Perdan assisted. Sirion did as well.
Regarding Dewey, you again show that you are either a liar or an idiot. He was not, as reported by your own newspaper, fined for any alleged wounding of the lord. He was fined, without proof as far as I know, of another lord's unfortunate wounding.
Itorunt wouldn't go to war with Keplerstan against Evilstani, betray Keplerstani for Evilstani, feed Evilstani, and then declare war against Keplerstan when they got listed feeding their enemy as a crime against Keplerstan.
Are these fine examples of nobility the same ones that secede realms and betray oaths to create hated realms from another land? And the fact that you claimed the land only proves the further greed of Caligus. The land has never rightfully been Caligus'. It was Itorunt that defeated Isadril. It was Itorunt that was allied to Fallangard. It was Itorunt that was allied to Yssaria. The only time Caligus ever had Isadril was because of one who betrayed the city to Caligus. It was then returned to Yssaria by the local nobility. Is it not odd how Caligus has only acquired the city through deceitful actions? --Hamilton Vita