Sanguis Astroism/The Magistratum
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Report from Constantine Meneldur (just in)
Here are all the correspondaces recieved so far that you have not otehrwise been sent. The reason why I have not sent them to you was nothing was decided however if you wish to see them you shall:
Report from Constantine Meneldur (5 days ago)
Message sent to: Bengt Algotsson, Mathurin Hossenfeffer, Melania Rahl, Timast Solacesta Juudges of the Magesterium,
I bring the response from Lady Allison: Letter from Allison Kabrinski (9 hours, 12 minutes ago)
Light,
I saw the letter from Melania.
Could you please ask them what charges are officially being brought against me? What evidence do they have to support these charges? I can hardly call witnesses or bring evidence forth if I don't know what exactly I am being charged with. Allison Kabrinski Coffermistress of Xinhai
Constantine Meneldur (Priest of Sanguis Astroism)
Letter from Melania Rahl (4 days, 23 hours ago) Message sent to: Bengt Algotsson, Constantine Meneldur, Mathurin Hossenfeffer, Timast Solacesta
Honestly I am somewhat frustrated by Lady Allison's response. I was under the impression that the purpose of this was to consider more closely her current, past, and future state within the church, the result of which may be our reversal of Prophet Mathurin's declaration of her as an enemy of the church.
Perhaps we should compile the reasons and circumstances leading up to Prophet Mathurin's declaration. Melania Rahl Haruspex Maximus of Astrum, Marchioness of Gelene Outskirts
Letter from Timast Solacesta (4 days, 23 hours ago)
Message sent to: Bengt Algotsson, Constantine Meneldur, Mathurin Hossenfeffer, Melania Rahl
I am also disappointed in her behavior. We are not convened to decide her innocence or guilt in my opinion, please correct me if I am wrong on this. We are here to decide whether her heart is truly set on reconciling with a Church that has cast her out, and if so, what standards and procedures are needed to ensure that the truth and want of repentance is represented by an action or set of actions commiserate with one who's status is as hers is.
(OOC: I apologize for my absences. Lots going on in my life at the moment. I do read everything, but do not have much time at the moment to respond deeply.) Timast Solacesta High Inquisitor of Niselur
Letter from Constantine Meneldur (4 days, 22 hours ago) Message sent to: Bengt Algotsson, Mathurin Hossenfeffer, Melania Rahl, Timast Solacesta I understand that her behaviour does seem inappropriate but after speaking to her before the trial she considers the whole "letter to a foreighn leader" thing to be a misunderstanding and therefore does not understand what constitutes her "misconduct". Remember when we clarified this for teh faithful she was not present. Constantine Meneldur (Priest of Sanguis Astroism)
Letter from Mathurin Hossenfeffer (4 days ago) Message sent to: Bengt Algotsson, Constantine Meneldur, Melania Rahl, Timast Solacesta
Worthies,
I suppose the discussion on the nature of the appeal has been restricted largely to the full members of the Faith so perhaps Allison deserves some explanation of what lies before here.
This is not a trial, so there are no charges being brought against her.
She is an Enemy of the Faith who has sought reconciliation.
This is an appeal through which she can make a presentation to demonstrate why the Faith should accept her once more. It is not the past that matters, so much as the present and the future.
Mathurin Hossenfeffer Holy Prophet of Corsanctum, Duke of Mimer
Constantine Meneldur (Priest of Sanguis Astroism)
Report from Constantine Meneldur (just in)
Report from Constantine Meneldur
(Personal message to Allison Kabrinski)
Letter from Bengt Algotsson (3 days, 2 hours ago)
Message sent to: Allison Kabrinski, Constantine Meneldur, Mathurin Hossenfeffer, Melania Rahl, Timast Solacesta
Lady Kabrinski,
Personally, I see two main issues standing in the way of your reconciliation with the Church. The first one is Maligning the Faith, as shown in an older letter that you sent to a foreign, non-believing ruler. The second one is Apostasy, i.e. leaving the Church of your own free volition. Perhaps the other Justices see additional issues; I am sure they will let us know.
For each of these obstacles, the first task of the current proceedings is, I think, to determine its magnitude. How serious was the maligning act, and what were its consequences, if any? Is apostasy to be regarded lightly within the Church?
Second, we need to find ways to surmount the obstacles thus surveyed and bring you and the Church together. Perhaps the Church can take preventive measures, to avoid estrangement of important members in the future. Perhaps there are also actions that you wish to undertake, in order to show your regret (if any) and/or to facilitate this rapprochement. As always, when trying to pull together a larger and a smaller body, it is likely more practical for the smaller part to exhibit greater motion towards the final union.
Thus, if you wish to make some declaration regarding these issues, and any others that might come up, the reconciliation process could be greatly sped up by explaining to us your views, with regard to both the problems of the past, and to the potentialities of your future within the Church.
In Faith, Bengt Algotsson High Inquisitor of Corsanctum, Count of Eisenik
Letter from Constantine Meneldur (3 days, 1 hour ago) Message sent to: Allison Kabrinski, Bengt Algotsson, Mathurin Hossenfeffer, Melania Rahl, Timast Solacesta Holy Prophet, Judges of the Magesterium, Lady Kabrinski,
If I may say so this "crime of apostacy" should be no obstacle in returning into the faith. It has always been the tradition of this Church that we should be accepting of those who would wish to turn towards the Stars. Over the years we have accpeted all nobles who have come to us including former Torenists and those who, if I may say so, have had blatant political motivation. As such it seems absurd that if former heretics be allowed in that nobles who left that faith and have since seen the light should be refused.
In Faith, Constantine Meneldur (Priest of Sanguis Astroism)
Report from Constantine Meneldur (just in)
Letter from Constantine Meneldur (3 days, 1 hour ago)
Message sent to: Allison Kabrinski, Bengt Algotsson, Mathurin Hossenfeffer, Melania Rahl, Timast Solacesta
If I may add to my previous letter I would alos like to say that apostacy is self imposed and if Allison no longer imposes it upon herself then it is not up to the Church to continue treating her as an apostate.
Constantine Meneldur (Priest of Sanguis Astroism)
Letter from Bengt Algotsson (3 days, 1 hour ago) Message sent to: Constantine Meneldur, Mathurin Hossenfeffer, Melania Rahl, Timast Solacesta
While, as Light Constantine has pointed out, apostasy is by no means irremediable, I still believe it can't be disregarded altogether. At least the causes that drove the former believer to such a radical step need to be properly discussed, if the reconciliation is to be viable and solid.
And, as the Prophet has pointed out, we are gathered here not to judge and condemn lady Allison for "crimes", but rather to provide spiritual guidance and help her be reunited with the Church. Maybe lady Allison was driven into apostasy by some severe deficiency in the organization of the Church; maybe she has suffered from a great dis-balance in the Star's influence on her blood; such things seem greatly relevant to the process at hand, in my humble opinion. However, if the other Justices, or the Prophet, consider apostasy to be a non-issue as well, then I will defer to their judgment. Bengt Algotsson High Inquisitor of Corsanctum, Count of Eisenik
Letter from Bengt Algotsson (3 days, 1 hour ago) Message sent to: Constantine Meneldur, Mathurin Hossenfeffer, Melania Rahl, Timast Solacesta
And, if I may also add to my previous letter, it seems quite a different situation to see a Torenist finding the true light of the Stars; or even to allow one who is insincere in his motives to join the Church, in the hope that he may become enlightened through closer contact with truer believers. But one who has been very deeply inside Sanguis Astroism, one closely familiar with many points of doctrine, one who has interacted with the Prophet on numerous occasions - seeing such a person turning away from the Faith seems much more serious. Bengt Algotsson High Inquisitor of Corsanctum, Count of Eisenik
Letter from Constantine Meneldur Message sent to: Bengt Algotsson, Mathurin Hossenfeffer, Melania Rahl, Timast Solacesta Judges of the Magesterium,
Lady Allison has issued this statement. Hopefully this will be able to move proceedings on apace:
"Magistratum,
First off I am not now, nor have I ever been an enemy of Sanguis Astroism.
The letter in question is being taken out of context. It was supposed to be private correspondence between Sejieda and I. It was never an attack against Sanguis Astroism. My thoughts and actions have always been for the expansion of Sanguis Astroism. I have apologized in the past and I do so again about the letter. I was angry when I wrote it. I hope we can put this all behind us.
Allison Kabrinski Coffermistress of Xinhai"
Have not all of us have at one point in our lives experianced anger and taken leave of our senses? This is a manifestation of the Maddening's influance and although I would agree that it should be kept under controll we bar Allison from the faith simply for being human. As you can see she realises the severity of her actions and is truly sorry for it. She has also assured me in private that such an event will not happen again. It was always been the position of the church to offer second chances. This is exactly what we are being asked to give here: A second chance to a women who has given much to the faith but perhaps did not learn restraint when needed.
In Faith, Constantine Meneldur (Priest of Sanguis Astroism)
Letter from Constantine Meneldur (1 hour, 12 minutes ago) Lady,
As for your most recent letter I have the following to say:
With regards to your contributions to the faith I don't think anyone can deny them. Your circumstances of being declared an "enemy" are, I believe between you and Mathurin.
As for your impression that this matter has made nobles afraid I think you are mistaken. In fact after you left we recieved one of the moust outragous outbursts from many of the Church's oldest members. I commend you greatly for refusing to establish a rival church of the Bloodstars and if the judges still refuse to allow you into the faith after your declaration I would like to cite that in your defense (with your permission of course).
As fot Brother Bengt I had no idea he was to become Light of the Madenning and although I agree that he is a great man I have always felt him as mkore of an Austere individual myself. As you may have heard there was a recent campaign to get you into the position however I am very much opposed to it. Do not misunderstand me, if it had been before this whole "enemy" buisness then I would most certainly have agreed however to have you expelled as an enemy and then immediatly enstated as an elder because of popular demand would send out the message that to be an enemy is a trivial thing that is easily wiped away. While the circumstances of you excommunication may have been contested I think you will understand that stability, more than anything, is what we need at the moment. As soon as people think they can defy all church authority is the moment that the reform plan fails and we degenerate into anarchy. Contary to what many think there is no conspiracy amongst the elders trying to block reform. Rather the reason why it is so slow is because very few people are contributing. We get a lot of things like "the elders need to be removed", "this isn't working" and "elders need clearly defined roles" but when the call goes out for what exactly these roles should be only a few members are active and the rest remain silent. This apathy is what is stopping the reform.
Now we come to your critisism of the Light appointments. I agree with you completly that the position of "Light of Maddenning" has been poorly filled in the past. First we had Varchilde, who was definitly not mad (but luckily she got moved to Austere) and then that priest Arthur who never once spoke a word before mysteriously disappearing. Indeed I would have thought you a worthy candidate however as I have stated before I do not this that is a viable option for the time being. The problem is that at the moment the rank of Light has no set rules or guidlines on what powers they have. While an Austere or Auspicious Light can handle this but thinking things over and always consulting the other elders a Mad Light may, through no fault of their own, wield their power disproportionatly compared to the other Lights and therefore cuase strife within the Church. This is one of the reasons why clearly defined eldership roles are important and why the Holy Prophet has initated reform.
Also, as I am speaking of my personnal views, I would like to say that I disagree with your statement that the Holy Prophet rarely exercising his authority and going for long meditations is a bad thing. On the contrary I think that is one of the few reasons why the church has managed to stay together up untill recently. If the Prophet were an opinionated person who lead the faith hand on and used his great authority no doubt many here would leave the faith, unsatisfied about where he is taking them. By being in the background he allows people of many differant views to flourish within the faith so ensuring that an equilibrium between the various factions is maintained. Unfortunatly, as I have said earlier, this method has recently fallen apart by a series of scandals and a desire for reform. The Prophet has risen to this task and has since benn far more active trying to introduce reform. I very much fear that day that Mathurin dies for the amount of authority the office of Prophet wields could, in the wrong hands, corrupt this church absolutly.
In Faith,
Constantine Meneldur (Priest of Sanguis Astroism)
Letter from Constantine Meneldur (1 hour, 9 minutes ago)
By "appeal" it is emant that you are "appealing" to join the faith.
Also another, rather troubling, letter has been sent:
Letter from Bengt Algotsson (16 minutes ago) Message sent to: Constantine Meneldur, Mathurin Hossenfeffer, Melania Rahl, Timast Solacesta
I haven't heard from Justice Melania yet, but Justice Timast seems to agree with me that the apostasy issue is important as well. We would like lady Allison to address this issue. Bengt Algotsson High Inquisitor of Corsanctum, Count of Eisenik
Nothing is decided but I fear we may have to contrust somthing to do with the so called "apostacy" aswell. Then again if Melania disagrees we may not.
In Faith,
Constantine Meneldur (Priest of Sanguis Astroism)
Report from Bengt Algotsson (5 hours, 19 minutes ago)
Message sent to everyone in "Sanguis Astroism" (127 recipients)
The Magistratum of Sanguis Astroism, convened to examine the case of Allison Kabrinksi's reconciliation with the Church, has taken into account all evidence received and reached the following conclusions:
1. Allison Kabrinski has been a valuable and energetic member of the Church, although occasionally prone to unfortunate lapses of judgement. 2. The events that accompanied her apostasy and declaration as enemy of the Faith have been due to such a lapse in judgement, rather than to heresy or evil plans against the Church. 3. The Penitent has expressed regret for her actions.
Therefore, we find that Allison Kabrinski is to be received back into the Church and, in accordance with our mandate as given by the Holy Prophet, we grant her the rank of Aspirant. Beyond this mandate, we also advise the following:
1. To lady Allison, we strongly recommend a regimen of meditation upon the Auspicious Star, before important decisions, as a counterpart to the powerful influence of Maddening. 2. To the Church at large, we recommend the timely implementation of the reforms outlined by the Prophet, as a preventive action against future discontent and estrangement of important members from the Church. 3. We further recommend that lady Allison be granted full rights within the Church, and full member status, upon completion of an act of penance, which is to serve as a test of her regained balance and to dispel any lingering doubts as to her full reconciliation. The nature of this act of penance should be chosen by lady Allison herself and approved by the Holy Prophet.
Thus the Magistratum has spoken. We sincerely thank all who have given testimony in this important case.
Welcome back, sister Allison!
Signed,
Melania Rahl, Justice of the Faith Timast Solacesta, Justice of the Faith Bengt Algotson, Justice of the Faith
Bengt Algotsson High Inquisitor of Corsanctum
