Talk:Volcanic Hot Newsletter/December '06 issue

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Template and Design

I need opinions, comments and thoughts on the 'template design'. Also, we want to conduct a vote as to whether we should place news with newest on top or oldest on top. Jezralhm 07:58, 19 December 2006 (CET)

I'm in favor of newest on top. Jezralhm
I also prefer newest on top. --Habap 16:03, 21 December 2006 (CET)

Macho heroes

Begging your pardon, dear sirs, but I do think that you declared war nearly a month ago. We're getting bored waiting with our allies for your arrival. Please excuse the speculation about why you have failed to appear. It was fueled by the pronouncements of your King and discusssion amongst your leaders that perhaps RedSpan and her allies were more than a match for Darka. Not having much experience myself, I assumed that these discussions and the request for someone to fund Darka's venture indicated an unwillingness to engage in combat.

We shall expect your prompt arrival to resolve this matter. I hope you can understand our confusion. Cowards often avoid battles, as you have for the last month, so we have been confused. --Habap 17:06, 14 December 2006 (CET)

If i m not mistaken RedSpan begged for this war not to happen ,of course back then they hadn t begged from help from their Federation,so Darka decided to give them sometime to think and meditate on their actions.Darka is a busy realm and before pleasure or personal matters ,job comes first.You see that is the life of a professional.But your lack of experience,as you stated yourself,justifies you.Be patient,we will visit you in time.-Lavigna
Of course we don't want a war. It is also obvious that we would call upon our Federation partners in response to attempted extortion. It is, however, difficult to conclude that the internal discussions of Darkan leaders indicate anything other than trepidation at the idea of meeting enemy forces in RedSpan. If you do manage to get someone to pay you to come down, do let us know. We'd hate to think that your declaration of war was the mere posturing which it appears to be. --Habap 22:12, 15 December 2006 (CET)

The declaration of war to RedSpan was made for a very specific reason.The assasiantion of MrJones.It is an act that should get punished as it is a war RedSpan and Darka should fight alone.But RedSpan obviously didn't want to fight this war alone and asked the help of it's friends.Since you brought others in this personal conflict i don t see why we shouldn't try to gain something from it as well.Maybe you should consider more the idea of RedSpan taking advantage of this war in order to make it a war of your Federation against Darka.Accept this war as 1vs1 war and we will see who fears to meet the enemy in it's lands.---Lavigna

Who cares what your declarations of war are made for? The real reasons are that Darkans are barbarians. You'll use a single infiltrator's action as an excuse to go out raping and killing -- but why bother? You don't need the excuse. And whining about your assassination attempt makes you look weak; now whining about how the war isn't "1 v 1" just makes you look even weaker. I mean, what did you think? Did you honestly think Abington would abandon her federated ally? You clearly did not think out your little war propaganda idea beforehand, but that's not our problem, is it? So get your friends, if you can find them. See which realm will dishonour itself so to align itself with a realm of barbarians. We'll see whether civilized nobles or craven, scampering thugs win the day.House Olik 17:30, 18 December 2006 (CET)
  • You have been through this with Pizzaro at your newspaper discussion. We have each other's thoughts, please let this end it Jezralhm:
Haha I must say, about half way through reading this I ask myself "Why did I start reading this again?" I wonder if you guys realize you both said the same thing in alternating spaces for about, oh, 48 kilobytes worth the stuff?! I could sumerize it all in one paragraph for you, using nice incomplete sentences and phrases to keep it simple. AJ attacks Darkan Judge, Darka mad, RS fines AJ, Darka thinks it's not enough since he still profited, Darka declares war on RS right away, Darka must complete contract first, RS calls in Abington and Carelia in the meantime, Darka mad, wanted one-on-one since it is a personal matter, Darkan King asks some ally for help beacuse the war won't be one-on-one, now RS enjoys making fun of Darka while they wait for contract to be fufilled. See? Simple. And it only took 10 lines. ~A Concern Reader

Like Gauihu's propaganda wasn t enough in the Judge's channel now the House of Olik comes to spam us here as well.First of all noone whined for the assasination,secondly noone whined for this being or not being a 1vs 1 war.Actually the whinners of the situation is RS.We had a Banker assasinated(you say one infil's action-we asked RS to ban AJ and have this done if they didn t agree with his action,they said no,so in a way they supported his action.) ,we declared war,RS asked help,we asked if anyone else in intrested in this war and paying for it as well.It has become something like action reaction thing.Noone whines Gauihu so plea quit your propaganda somewhere ....here. --Lavigna

Ah, Lavigna, if your propaganda rag is not the place to discuss propaganda, where shall it be? As for your silly little proclamations: You may well have said that if Redspan didn't banish AJ they agreed with it - that doesn't make it so. That was simply an ultimatum of yours, not a reflection of the truth. If I say, "give me gold, or else you are a demon worshipper," and you don't give me gold, does that mean you are a demon worshipper? No, it means you didn't give me gold. Similarly, Redspan's choice of punishment, while unsatisfactory to the ego of your precious banker and government, doesn't mean they "agreed" with AJ's actions. Now hurry up and show everyone your "mighty army!" Now is your chance, because, let me tell you, raping a few unarmed peasants in Abington did not show that very well. House Olik 07:03, 19 December 2006 (CET)

---"give me gold, or else you are a demon worshipper," ----Your ridiculous logic once more.It s not that one day we walk up and said AJ wants to kill our Banker thus his realms support it and we must war them.It is something that DID happen and w gave to RS 2 ways of showing they don t support such action and they refused both.A realm that doesn t support an assasination of a foreign council member the least it can do to show it,is ban the infil.Isn t that what you new Law says dear Gauihu??Also i would like to point out that you seem very involved in anything that contains Darka in it.Why are you so obsessed with us?And please don t start whining of what happened back in Abby.I would leave the RedSpaninans and Darkians talk for this matter Gauihu,except if you consider them lesser than you and think they can t cope with the discssion.Noone whined,and this was supposed to be a 1vs1 war,till Redspan pulled other realms in.So since she brought it s friends...why not bring some realms intrestedto pay,as well?--Good day to you!Lavigna

(OOC: Wow, 3 of the first 5 articles are about Finegus! I'm honored he's become such a popular character in Darka! :) oshea 04:06, 19 December 2006 (CET))

I would tend to disagree, Lavigna. Pizarro whined quite loudly about it not being 1 v 1. Of course, he's not particularly important in Darka as he is still new and has yet to fight a battle. LilWolf and Jaune seemed to be whining too.
We have consistently asked that Darka either come down and fight us or drop the whole thing. Since there is now a war, Finegus' actions are probably to be expected (using infiltrators when war is actually declared). RedSpan did try to send a column north to engage Darkan troops, but could not acquire right of passage. At least we tried to actually fight the declared war. Darka has shown no desire to actually fight. --Habap 05:16, 19 December 2006 (CET)
Darka will attack at a time of its own choosing, not when RedSpan demands or wants it to. We're not stupid. We're not going to march to RedSpan to be killed by an combined army of Abington and RedSpan. Anyone who has even a little bit of understanding of military tactics would agree that that would be a stupid move. So stop whining that we're not coming. We'll come when the time is right for us and when the time is the worst for you. - LilWolf 11:50, 19 December 2006 (CET)
Thanks for confirming my statement about the whining. If you want a one-on-one, dream on. Your declaration of war is meaningless. It was simply a declaration of we don't like you. Cowards. --Habap 16:23, 19 December 2006 (CET)

News tip

Urpo, brother of KK has made article about Darka vs. RS war. http://wiki.battlemaster.org/index.php/Atamara_News/Darka_RS_War

Since it has that _RS_ thing, link is broken on ingame messages, so if you could place link on your news paper?

If you type [[Atamara News/Darka RS War]] in-game, it should link there properly. --Habap 15:46, 18 December 2006 (CET)

Suggestion

A lot of the newspapers here put the most recent stories at the top, pushing the older stuff down the page. This makes it easier for someone coming to check on the latest news to see it immediately. You might also use sections to create headlines -- use == before and after each headline to make it into a section. The other nice thing about that is once you have 4 or so sections, it automatically adds a table of contents, allowing easier navigation. Good luck! --Habap 14:56, 16 December 2006 (CET)

Well, I put in some template. Crescent can yell at me later if I did them wrong :) - LilWolf 16:45, 16 December 2006 (CET)
Looks good. Also, I think referring to the King's interview as the KKK interview might not be very funny, due to the racist implications of using those three letters together. --Habap 22:39, 16 December 2006 (CET)
Good point. Renamed the article title. Jezralhm 03:54, 18 December 2006 (CET)

Sacrilege

Juan's suggestion of goat-buggery, which might be acceptable in Darka, disgusts me to no end. If he chooses to have relations with his animals, that is his vile business. To suggest it to others is beyond the pale. Suggesting that one do such with goats is pure heresy. --Habap 15:45, 18 December 2006 (CET)

It may be heresy if it was a true religion. Otherwise, search for a sense of humor. Jezralhm 22:34, 18 December 2006 (CET)
I tried. There is no page titled ":sense of humor". Sigh. --Habap 16:04, 21 December 2006 (CET)
(OOC: LOL). Nevertheless, I find this amusing Habap. This 'sacrilege' is no more than good natured banter, no? Jezralhm 16:30, 21 December 2006 (CET)