Talk:Order of the Doughnuts/East Continent

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It saddens me to find The Order of the Doughnuts limited to only East Continent. All islands should be blessed with the gooey goodness that is doughnuts! I have great interest in helping The Order of the Doughnuts expand to the Colonies, specifically, Alebad. It would make for a separate hierarchy (i.e. one Golden Doughnut, Grand Glazer, etc. per island), but easily tracked and organized here or on a seperate "The Order of the Doughnuts - Colonies" wiki page. What say ye, fine members? Shall the love of doughnuts and peace be allowed to expand beyond the borders of just one island? --Calvin November 19:51, 26 May 2006 (CEST)

Ah, Calvin November, how true it is that all islands should have access to the wonder of the doughnuts. I shall forward your message unto the guild members on the continent. I assume you have the means to establish such a guild in the colonies? --The1exile 20:15, 26 May 2006 (CEST)

As Count of Alebad's Vir el Mari heights, yes, I do have the ability to establish a new guildhouse. Of course, I'll have to tempt my fellow Senate members with some yummy dough that's been fried in oil and glazed with sugar for the official okay, but it shouldn't be too tough. --Calvin November 06:28, 27 May 2006 (CEST)

Rackir has given his blessing to establish new sibling guilds across other continents. --Neoro 06:52, 27 May 2006 (CEST)

Excellent. I shall set about it soon and post progress here. Shall the name of the "Colonies" guild be simply "The Order of the Doughnuts" with the approptiate tweaks to the current Order of the Doughnuts wiki page? Information on the Colonies guildhouse(s) could be included on the same wiki page using something like the following example (for the Members of the Guild section):

East Continent Colonies

Grand Glazer
Rackir since 2006-01-14
Shop Managers
Rodon since 2006-01-20
Sumsar since 2006-01-20
Ryndhal since 2006-02-06
Zog Returns since 2006-02-08
Holders of the Book of Recipes
Widfara since 2006-02-28
Aurum since 2006-04-11
Master Bakers
Abishur since 2006-02-11
Denver since 2006-02-13
Bakers
Destruidor since 2006-02-08
Dough Mixers
Is Est since 2006-01-14
Meryl since 2006-01-15
Achilles since 2006-01-17
Irias since 2006-01-25
Finwe since 2006-01-26
Samson since 2006-01-28
Faragorn since 2006-02-01
Falcor since 2006-02-12
Rendar since 2006-02-12
Storm since 2006-02-14
Alan since 2006-02-23
Tiraldric since 2006-02-26
Baranak since 2006-02-26
speedy since 2006-03-21
Ichigo since 2006-03-21
Artaxerxes since 2006-03-24
Sotel since 2006-03-26
Turbo Returns since 2006-03-26
Terrence since 2006-03-30
Ardor since 2006-04-03
Korin since 2006-04-09
Gadouha since 2006-04-09
Apprentices
Aristullos since2006-04-26
Crais since2006-05-11
Kevin since2006-05-11
Ocean since2006-05-16
Lloyyd since2006-05-22
People who enjoy Doughnuts
Jerry since 2006-04-23
El'rith since 2006-04-26
Black Adder since 2006-05-04
Kamekaze since 2006-05-06
Gwynyth since 2006-05-16
Vlad since 2006-05-24

Grand Glazer
Calvin November since 2006-05-27
Shop Managers
Holders of the Book of Recipes
Master Bakers
Bakers
Dough Mixers
Apprentices
People who enjoy Doughnuts

Ok, Calvin, theres some things about the titles you might need to know. It's a good idea though. Just make sure that you include prominently where you are located (i.e. Colonies). For example, Holders of the book of recipes are those responsible for typing in the wiki page, so it might not be needed as a position for your guild. In fact, if you want I'll write you you own page, if you tell me the info and stuff.

Oh and about the name, we need something different. We are also seeing about founding another sibling guild on Beluaterra. Names for that?

I suggest when the guilds on other continents are up we move this page and create a sort of disambiguation page here. --The1exile 19:55, 27 May 2006 (CEST)


Gotcha. The more tips & guidance (such as hierarchy) you can pass along, the better.

And I agree. Perhaps 3 separate wiki's ("The Order of the Doughnuts - East Continent", "The Order of the Doughnuts - Colonies" and "The Order of the Doughnuts - Beluaterra") is the easiest plan. The current Order of the Doughnuts wiki page could contain the basic info (here's what we're about, etc.) and provide links to each of the separate guild pages. Otherwise this could get pretty messy fast. Plus, I'm not sure that many people know how to make or edit tables in wiki code.

As for keeping wiki-ness updated, it's kinda fun for me too, but help would not be turned away.

Dah! You know, it's too bad there's no way to communicate across islands in game. --Calvin November 01:18, 28 May 2006 (CEST)

Oh, if you want to do the wiki page yourself, by all means. Just an offer.

As for communication across Continents, I agree, it sucks that you can't. Same as the Wish List idea about the travelling across continents without emigrating. Makes RPing my characters properly a pain.

Yeah. Three wiki's are good (well, only two for now). You started on your page then? --The1exile 14:26, 28 May 2006 (CEST)


No, haven't started on it, but I may do the coding for it elsewhere and transfer it here when I've received the approval of my fellow Alebadian senators. We've all make a pact to not build anything without "running it by" the group first. I should know something within the week & I'll, obviously, post it here. --Calvin November 00:18, 29 May 2006 (CEST)


Just thought I'd post two messages received in game when I first proposed the idea of establishing "The Order of the Doughnuts - Colonies". The players in my realm are hilarous.

Letter from Ardrryn Dynrode   (44 minutes ago)
Message sent to everyone in message group "Senate of Alebad"
Senate of Alebad,

That is a very interesting idea, Count Calvin. A guildhouse would bring gold, information and people into 
Alebad, and provide us with a secure contact to other cultures through which peaceful negotiations and 
business may be discussed.

However, I have one question, Count. Pray, what is a doughnut?

Sincerely,

Ardrryn Dynrode
Paladin Primus of Alebad
[reply to sender] | [ignore] | [userdetails]


Letter from The   (32 minutes ago)
Message sent to everyone in message group "Senate of Alebad"
Another factor is the distance and time between Alebad and the Heights... it simply would take too long 
for people to travel back and forth.

Doughnut, I believe, is just an elaboration on Donut which is a mutation of Do Not. I think what Calvin 
proposed was a guild for the non-doers of the realm.

For Alebad,

The
Haruspex Maximus of Alebad

I too noticed the "odd" spelling. As per www.dictionary.com however, doughnut and donut are both correct spellings. Hmm. Who knew? Actually, here in the States we have several roadsigns that read "DO NOT PASS". I rarely pass one without reading it "Donut Pass". Mmmm. --Calvin November 04:37, 29 May 2006 (CEST)

Well, I personally don't know why the Order of the Doughnuts is spelt using that particular form... I suppose we could ask Rackir, but it's not a huge issue. I write in british english, so for me writing doughnuts is the way to do it, unless I'm being lazy. I am still astounded that there is any confusion as to what a doughnut is. Certainly your Paladin Primus should know that there are simple pleasures in life that none may do without... And your Haruspex Maximus is correct, it is an elaborate excuse for sitting around gorging ourselves all day, but what did he expect?

P.S. I would like to see a "Donut pass". --The1exile 15:34, 29 May 2006 (CEST)

Where is the doughnut pass? ooc: im from America, but I spell it doughnut because iv been in the guild too long, donut doesn't look like the right spelling anymore -- Aurum Bishamon Family 01:30, 30 May 2006 (CEST)


Dah! I finally made it back to my region, and am 47 gold short of building "The Order of the Doughnuts" guildhouse in Vir el Mari heights. Guess I'll have to wait till next tax day and try again. Beyond the name, what sort of information will I need to provide during its construction (description, hierarchy, fees, etc.)? --Calvin November 16:29, 6 June 2006 (CEST)


It is finished! Almost all of the text was plagarized from here, but the Order of the Doughnuts/Colonies guild has been founded. I still could still use a little guidance on fees/grants/debt per rank (if this needs to be done IRL or on IRC, just let me know). I want to make the Colonies version identical to the East Continent one. Someone want to move this page to Order of the Doughnuts/East Continent and write some new text for the current page? --Calvin November 15:51, 20 June 2006 (CEST)


Nice work Calvin. The doughnut eating community owes you a lot. I have moved the pages. I will fix the front page to look better a bit later.

I am currently no longer a member of the guild, having emigrated to redder pastures, but I shall see if I will return. And if I do not; well then, whichever Island I end up on shall have to experience the delectablility of doughnuts for themselves, and I shall see if I have the ability to start the guilds there as well. --The1exile 17:16, 20 June 2006 (CEST)

I guess as lone Holder of the Book of Recipes, I must be in charge for this now. Therefore, Calvin, contact me should you need anything. I suggest when you make the equivalent rank, we be responsible for the spreading of the Doughnuts. You can't spread dougnuts without recipe books afterall. -- Aurum Bishamon Family 20:58, 20 June 2006 (CEST)