Talk:Family Pages

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Older versions of this page are at /old and /old2.

Character Subpaging

One thing I've not yet fitted into the main page: The game now links to your family and character pages directly. It uses the following naming convention, where FamName is your family name and CharName your character's name:

Family Page: FamName Characters: FamName/CharName

i.e. Character pages are set up as subpages of the family page. --Tom 21:08, 15 May 2006 (CEST)


Bellator family has the wrong format it should be Bellator House not House Bellator.

Add the Maggiori Family

How do I add them to the lesser families list?

Its done. you just needed to click the "edit" button next to the heading "Lesser Families", insert its name in alphabetical order, and put "[[" in front of and "]]" behind to create the link. Fredrich 02:02, 19 October 2006 (CEST)

Length of Page

The warning has recently come up. Any suggestions for cutting down the page? Perhaps we can remove lesser families and those not wanting on any list? We already have a categories page with all families listed. --Vita Family 02:11, 5 December 2008 (CET)

The "unsorted" section doesn't seem to have much of a point...=Chénier 05:48, 5 December 2008 (CET)
Subpages. --Indirik 17:43, 5 December 2008 (CET)

Fame Points?

Maybe which class a family falls into, renown, etc. should be determined by its fame points. There could be a certain minimum number of fame points for each level. When family fame equals that the family could be moved into that category. Comments? --Antonine 18:43, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Who would keep track of it, and do all the work to keep this list up to date? You're talking about a long-term commitment of a significant amount of time. --Indirik (talk), Editor (talk) 20:12, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Why would any one person have to do this? No one went around and tried to find out all the families that fit into the current categories. What about a subpage off the current family pages and have fame thresholds set at intervals of five, for those who want to add them? Shwartzring 22:13, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
If you try and organize a page based on numerical thresholds of variable in-game data, then you will create a page that either requires a lot of work by one or two people, or will just be simply outdated and then wrong and useless. Trust me on this. After working on this wiki a lot for the past three and a half years, I've seen a lot of things come and go. An attempt like this will probably yield a small amount of initial interest. Then it will probably trail off as people forget about it, or get tired of updating it. Then you'll end up with an abandoned page of outdated information. This page contains a LOT of outdated information. But it sorta works, in that it is a general classification that you can't really point at and say "That's just wrong".
If you want to try and organize some form of list based on numerical fame values, then feel free to go ahead and create the page, and try to convince people to use it. I'd suggest something a bit coarser than 5 though, Try for 10 and see how it works. --Indirik (talk), Editor (talk) 02:39, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I didn't mean that someone should go around moving all the pages every time family fame changes. What I meant was that, instead of the rather vague descriptions of what makes a family High Noble instead of Renowned, you could have the limits for each section put in terms of fame points and then it could be left up to them as to where they can place their family. In that regard it would be no different from waht it is now. --Antonine 08:06, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Like I said above, if you want to make the page, go ahead and do it. Maybe it will catch on, as it provides a much more concrete method of ranking. --Indirik (talk), Editor (talk) 12:28, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
It should not noted that while its not explicit as your system, there is a method to the organization. Its been there for years and was quite easy to interpret when I was adding unlisted families. Royal families are simply those with established royals. I tend to put it at acquiring 100-day fame by a member, but I'm sure there are those who simply became ruler. High Noble would be short-term rulers, successful religious founders, dukes, prominent generals, long-term judges etc. Renowned would be those with region lordships or maybe a duke. Lessor and Unsorted(I hate the term because all PC families are high nobles, but the page needed divided and it seemed a good IC way to explain it easily) are simply those who never were part of a government council, acquired a lordship, or wished to be on another list. And, of course, I stand by the points Indirik explained earlier. --Ethan Lee Vita (Talk), Editor and Community Manager 13:15, 17 August 2009 (UTC)