Talk:Redspan Revealer/March Edition 2007

Respect

You guys must be mad...ASI has never broken a treaty with RedSpan...but this is like the 3rd time you guys do--that immeidately comes to mind anyway. Each time you do it is while ASI is extraordinarly busy with other affairs. This low blow is truely disturbing. My only hopes are that those that respect treaties see the dishonor in your actions, and pay you a little visit until you cease these senseless hostilities. Truely, one of many things that seperate man from animal, is Diplomacy. I do not think Da One wishes for you all to literally become Goats while living as Human beings. Doc's Revenge

Yes, because stealing Byblack, Roegshore and Sullenport when Redspan was extraordinarily busy with other affairs was such an honourable thing to do. And taking the islands from Abington while they were extraordinarily busy with other affairs was such an honourable thing to do. And I recall a plot to split Redspan's lands between ASI and Abington. And there was a time that ASI attacked Redspan in order to gain Ambermel when Redspan was in tense relationships with multiple other realms. And the list goes on. I don't recall any time that ASI has ever been particularly honourable. Diplomacy is fine and dandy, but when negotiations for what we want met with flat denial, there is a time that aggression is the only logical course of action. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Filador 06:43, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

Riiiight...I suppose that it was totally and completly dishonorable to give Sullenport back to RedSpan, not once, but twice. Only to be backstabbed, not once, but twice...we're definately the bad guys here. ---Hyral

I might note that the more recent time was only after stealing an additional two cities (including the second largest one on the map) from our ally. Which also allowed MI and Talerium to steal a third city for Kybcyell. Additionally, it forced Abington to leave the war to our north, which forced us to break off our war, and enabled CE to arbitrarily take more than half a dozen regions from Carelia. Furthermore, the original offer to buy Roegshore, which would have been up for negotiations was in the range of 10,000 gold plus trade agreements. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Filador 12:24, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

And what does all that have to do with Sullenport being given back to RedSpan twice? Carelia has reclaimed most if not all of her regions as far as I know, Kybcyell is dead and has been for a while as far as I know...and we didn't want to sell a region, it's our right an independent kingdom to not do what we don't want to do. But in the end, none of that changes the fact that after we gave the city back, and RedSpan turned and stabbed us in the back...again. ---Hyral

The RedSpaniards can't say beans on this matter. They know they're acting like scum, so they try and talk about ASI/Abby affairs...when they weren't even privvy to such matters. Abington was busy BECAUSE OF US when we took the Islands. It was a war over a treaty that was BROKEN with ASI. However, those damages are in the past, and we enjoy a rather GOOD relationship with Abington. However, the Goats always want more than they deserve...fine...ya'll will learn the hard way that it is not wise to backstab a neighbor...especially one that has defeated your realm in EVERY major war we've battled over in the past. This is what we get for giving Sullenport over to ya'll twice, and even giving you Byblack when we took it from Tara long ago. Once a Traitor, always a traitor, I guess. My mistake for lobbying in favor of better relations with RedSpan while I was king. I hope Malice doesn't make the same mistake. Doc's Revenge

Always so much anger. I hope that I do not grow so bitter in my advanced years. -- Dabug Habap 14:15, 9 March 2007 (CET)

Aye, that one curr has the stench of the walking dead. One day his misery will end, but until it does, he intends to make everyone as miserable as he. House Olik 19:25, 9 March 2007 (CET)

There is only reason in my words. House of Olik had best keep quiete, since they are all talk and no action...only a NOBLE house can speak against me since their honor rides on the line of their statemetns. There is no bitterness in my words, simply dissapointment in that RedSpan has learned absolutely nothing from her past. And that in it of itself is extraordinary. Ask anyone on the island whether or not RedSpan is honorable, and if they say "yes" with a straight face, I'll give you a cookie. Doc's Revenge

Nothing but foolishness from the old dog. Once again you show that the only way you know to win a contest is with the sword... no wonder your mother was a murdering traitor and your rule was marked by wanton aggression. So why whine because Redspan is giving you what you were once content to give others? Just for the sake of hearing yourself talk, it seems. Even the lowliest of goat-worshippers has more honour than thou, you son-of-a-whore. House Olik 18:40, 12 March 2007 (CET)

It astounds me that people from both realms are suprised that war has erupted. We asked for Rogeshore back when ASI returned Byblack and Sullenport, and they declined. We offered to buy it for a tidy sum, and they declined. What other course of action was left to us to reclaim our homeland other than war, in the same way you retook the Islands from Abington? The fact that people in Rogeshore were spreading the lies of Serpianism southward into our lands resulting in the assaulting of our Priests was merely the catalystic spark to ignite the conflict that had been brewing for months. Both realms have brought this on each other; nobody has the right to be bitter or insulting towards the other side. Now, we fight. (P.S> This is all I'm saying on this topic, so don't expect any debates.) Shamus oshea 18:29, 12 March 2007 (CET)

Well Olik House...you aren't even from RedSpan, and you don't even participate in war. You do the Palace Laundry, and patrol the garden...I have earned my place in this world with the very sword as you put it, I am a warrior and you are a worm. I don't have to even argue with you because you are nothing in the eyes of all those that earn their place under the sun.

As for what Shamus said..indeed, I guess you are correct in this affair. If your logic sounds true, ASI must simply take back what she gave it would appear. We didn't have to give RedSpan ANYTHING...it was offered to them in an agreement that clearly excluded Rogeshore. So this "Great Highway" nonsense will come to a close in some way or form. it is just a bloody shame. Doc's Revenge

I've fought and bled for Abington on many occasions, thou foolish old sheep's-gut. You don't want to argue, because you'll lose. Your points are irrational and based on your own biased and idiotic interpretations of your own Darka-loving dogs. I may not be from Redspan, so what? You are not from Redspan either. Again - you are irrational to the point of ridicule. You are no warrior, you're a foolish old man whose main successes were in manipulating OTHER realms to do your fighting for you. And even if you were a warrior, do you think that is impressive in light of your obvious brainlessness? You are a pitiably stupid old man who was shat out of the hole of a pitiably stupid traitorous wench. Your nobility is no more than that of a barbarian mercenary, your intellect is no more effective than your impotent manhood, and you consort with and support Black Cult members and Darkan dogs.

But, you are right on one thing - you don't have to argue with me, so by all means, shut your flapping mouth before your beard gets caught in your arse. House Olik 23:12, 13 March 2007 (CET)

House Olik, I'd appreciate it if you refrain from making posts like that in the future on the pages of my paper. Debates are fine, mudslinging is a house rule, but your last post was just a flat out insult, and disgraceful speech for a noble in my opinion. I really appreciate your willingness to speak out on behalf of the people of RedSpan, but please stick to semi-political rhetoric in the future. By the way, I've had many debates with ol' DR and I can tell you the man is the antithesis of foolish. He has problems remembering exact details from time to time, but his mind is still quick as a whip. The biggest mistake anyone can make when speaking with him is underestimating his skills (OOC: I imagine him as like a comic book supervillan, like Dr. Doom or something :). Shamus oshea 02:40, 14 March 2007 (CET)