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The [[Fame Box]] is a useful source of information regarding Fame points. It maintains a synchronization with the [[Fame]] page, where authoritative information is added by [[User:Tom|Tom]] sparingly. With a neater formatting, what you could expect from this page is some more unauthoritative yet plausible information about Fame points. It might not be the fundamental truth, but with some luck, perhaps it will just lead you straight to its gate.
| align="centre"  | '''Fame-o-meter'''
 
{| border="0" align="Right" style="background:#efefef"
 
|-
 
| width="150px"  | Available
 
| align="center" width="30px"  | '''50'''
 
|-
 
| Known
 
| align="center"  | '''38'''
 
|-
 
| Unknown
 
| align="center"  | '''12'''
 
|-
 
| High Score
 
| align="center"  | '''38'''
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
 
 
 
The [[Fame Box]] is a useful source of information regarding Fame points. It maintains a synchronization with the [[Fame]] page, where authoritative information is added by [[User:Tom|Tom]] sparingly. With a neater formatting, what you could expect from this page is some more unauthoritative yet plausible information about Fame points. It might not be the fundamental truth, but with some lucks, perhaps it will just lead you straight to its gate.
 
  
 
Unlike [[Lemon Fame 2]], this page does not feature wild random shots. All plausible information is at least backed by a certain degree of educated guesses or evidences.
 
Unlike [[Lemon Fame 2]], this page does not feature wild random shots. All plausible information is at least backed by a certain degree of educated guesses or evidences.
  
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{{Userboxtop|Fame|center}}
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----
 
{{Col-begin}}
 
{{Col-begin}}
 
{{Col-3}}
 
{{Col-3}}
 
 
<center>'''Offices'''</center>
 
<center>'''Offices'''</center>
* [[Ruler]]
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{{Fame Ruler 0}}
:: 0<sup>th</sup> Day: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point <sup>[[#1. For being elected or appointed.|[1]]]</sup>
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{{Fame Ruler 10}}
:: 10<sup>th</sup> Day: <span style="color: green">'''4'''</span> points <sup>[[#2. For a consecutive reign.|[2]]]</sup>
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{{Fame Ruler 100}}
:: 100<sup>th</sup> Day: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point <sup>[[#2. For a consecutive reign.|[2]]]</sup>
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{{Fame General}}
* [[General]]
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{{Fame Judge}}
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point <sup>[[#1. For being elected or appointed.|[1]]]</sup>
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{{Fame Banker}}
* [[Judge]]
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{{Fame Duke}}
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point <sup>[[#1. For being elected or appointed.|[1]]]</sup>
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{{Fame Lord}}
* [[Banker]]
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<center>'''Sum: <span style="color: green">12</span> points'''</center>
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point <sup>[[#1. For being elected or appointed.|[1]]]</sup>
 
* [[Duke]]
 
:: <span style="color: green">'''2'''</span> points
 
* [[Region_Command|Region Lord]]
 
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
 
{| border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" style="width: 10%; float: right; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse;"
 
|-
 
| width="100%" style="font-size: 150%; text-align: center;"|
 
|}
 
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'''Total Known: <span style="color: green">12</span> points'''
 
 
 
 
{{Col-3}}
 
{{Col-3}}
 
 
<center>'''Attributes'''</center>
 
<center>'''Attributes'''</center>
* Individual [[Prestige]] <sup>[[#3. For high Prestige of an individual character.|[3]]]</sup>
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{{Fame Prestige 10}}
:: 10 Prestige: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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{{Fame Prestige 20}}
:: 20 Prestige: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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{{Fame Prestige 50}}
:: 50 Prestige: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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{{Fame Family Prestige 20}}
* Family Prestige <sup>[[#4. For high sum of Prestige across all family characters.|[4]]]</sup>
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{{Fame Family Prestige 50}}
:: 20 Prestige: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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{{Fame Family Prestige 100}}
:: 50 Prestige: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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{{Fame Family Wealth 2000}}
:: 100 Prestige: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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{{Fame Family Wealth 5000}}
* [[Family Wealth]]
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<center>'''Sum: <span style="color: green">8</span> points'''</center>
:: 2000 Gold: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
 
:: 5000 Gold: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
 
{| border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" style="width: 10%; float: right; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse;"
 
|-
 
| width="100%" style="font-size: 150%; text-align: center;"|
 
|}
 
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'''Total Known: <span style="color: green">8</span> points'''
 
 
 
 
{{Col-3}}
 
{{Col-3}}
 
 
<center>'''Events'''</center>
 
<center>'''Events'''</center>
* Building a [[Palace]] or Moving the [[Capital]] <sup>[[#5. Leading to the same Fame.|[5]]]</sup>
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{{Template:Fame Trader}}
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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{{Fame Palace & Capital}}
* Founding a [[Guilds|Guild]] or a [[Priest Game|Religion]] <sup>[[#5. Leading to the same Fame.|[5]]]</sup>
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{{Fame Tournament Host}}
:: <span style="color: green">'''2'''</span> points
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{{Fame Tournament Champion}}
* Publishing a Book <sup>[[#6. Requiring Mentor points.|[6]]]</sup>
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{{Fame Army Sponsor}}
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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{{Fame Unique Item}}
* Making a [[Family Investment]]
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{{Fame Guild & Religion}}
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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{{Fame Prophet}}
* Winning a [[Tournament]]
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{{Fame Book}}
:: <span style="color: green">'''3'''</span> point
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{{Fame Mentor}}
* Hosting a Successful Tournament<br>''(Details Lacking)'' <sup>[[#7. The exact definition of a "successful" tournament is unknown.|[7]]]</sup>
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{{Fame Investment}}
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> points
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{{Fame Outcast}}
{| border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" style="width: 10%; float: right; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse;"
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{{Fame Wanted}}
|-
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<center>'''Sum: <span style="color: green">18</span> points'''</center>
| width="100%" style="font-size: 150%; text-align: center;"|
 
|}
 
----
 
'''Total Known: <span style="color: green">9</span> points'''
 
 
 
 
{{Col-end}}
 
{{Col-end}}
 
{{Col-begin}}
 
{{Col-begin}}
 
{{Col-3}}
 
{{Col-3}}
 
 
<center>'''Deaths'''</center>
 
<center>'''Deaths'''</center>
* Being Killed as a non-Hero <sup>[[#8. Usually by execution.|[8]]]</sup>
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{{Fame Death Duel}}
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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{{Fame Death}}
* Winning a [[Duel]] to the [[death#Duels|Death]] <sup>[[#9. The defeated one must actually dies.|[9]]]</sup>
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{{Fame Heroic Death}}
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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{{Fame Legendary Hero}}
* Dying as a [[Hero]] <sup>[[#10. In order to receive all 4 points, the lose of two heroes is needed, one legendary and one non-legendary.|[10]]]</sup>
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<center>'''Sum: <span style="color: green">6</span> points'''</center>
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
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{{Col-3}}
* Dying as a Legendary [[Hero]]<br>''(Details Lacking)'' <sup>[[#10. In order to receive all 4 points, the lose of two heroes is needed, one legendary and one non-legendary.|[10]]]</sup><sup>[[#11. The exact criteria of a "legendary" status is unknown.|[11]]]</sup>
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<center>'''Unclarities'''</center>
:: <span style="color: green">'''3'''</span> points
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{{Fame Exceptional Skill}}
{| border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" style="width: 10%; float: right; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse;"
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<center>'''Sum: At least <span style="color: red">1</span> point'''</center>
|-
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{{Col-3}}
| width="100%" style="font-size: 150%; text-align: center;"|
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<center>'''Unknown'''</center>
|}
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{{Fame Unknown}}
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<center>'''Sum: At most <span style="color: red">7</span> points'''</center>
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{{Col-end}}
 
----
 
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'''Total Known: <span style="color: green">6</span> points'''
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<center>'''Total: <span style="color: purple">51</span> points'''</center>
 
 
{{Col-3}}
 
 
 
<center>'''Unclarities'''<small><small><sup>[[#12. Confirmed and have been made known to grant Fame by Tom, but most details still remain unknown.|[12]]]</sup></small></small></center>
 
* Owning Exceptional Skill(s)
 
:: At least <span style="color: red">'''1'''</span> point
 
* Being the Founder of a Successful Religion <sup>[[#13. The exact criteria of a "successful" religion are unknown.|[13]]]</sup>
 
:: At least <span style="color: red">'''1'''</span> point
 
* Sponsoring a Successful Army<br>''(Unimplemented)''
 
:: <span style="color: green">'''1'''</span> point
 
{| border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" style="width: 10%; float: right; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border-collapse: collapse;"
 
|-
 
| width="100%" style="font-size: 150%; text-align: center;"|
 
|}
 
 
----
 
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'''Total Known: At least <span style="color: red">3</span> points'''
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<center>'''Current High: [[Nifelleisca Family|<span style="color: orange">47</span>]] points'''</center>
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{{Userboxbottom}}
  
{{Col-3}}
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===Syntax===
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* The simplest usage is quite self-explanatory; just the way you would insert a template:
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{{Col-begin}}
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{{Col-2}}
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:<tt><nowiki>{{Fame Investment}}</nowiki></tt>
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{{Col-2}}
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{{Fame Investment}}
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{{Col-end}}
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* Most templates feature an extra parameter allowing you to insert a custom message in the bottom part of the central compartment:
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{{Col-begin}}
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{{Col-2}}
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:<tt><nowiki>{{Fame Investment|<center>(Lilith)</center>}}</nowiki></tt>
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{{Col-2}}
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{{Fame Investment|<center>(Lilith)</center>}}
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{{Col-end}}
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* The Palace/Capital template and the Guild/Religion template feature three extra parameters allowing you to not only insert a custom message but choosing between three variations as well:
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{{Col-begin}}
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{{Col-2}}
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:<tt><nowiki>{{Fame Palace & Capital}}</nowiki></tt>
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{{Col-2}}
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{{Fame Palace & Capital}}
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{{Col-end}}
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{{Col-begin}}
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{{Col-2}}
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:<tt><nowiki>{{Fame Palace & Capital||Palace||}}</nowiki></tt>
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{{Col-2}}
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{{Fame Palace & Capital||Palace||}}
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{{Col-end}}
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{{Col-begin}}
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{{Col-2}}
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:<tt><nowiki>{{Fame Palace & Capital||||Capital}}</nowiki></tt>
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{{Col-2}}
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{{Fame Palace & Capital||||Capital}}
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{{Col-end}}
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{{Col-begin}}
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{{Col-2}}
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:<tt><nowiki>{{Fame Palace & Capital|<center>(Lilith)</center>|||Capital}}</nowiki></tt>
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{{Col-2}}
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{{Fame Palace & Capital|<center>(Lilith)</center>|||Capital}}
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{{Col-end}}
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* The Unknown template features two extra parameters in the second of which you can set the value of the unknown points:
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{{Col-begin}}
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{{Col-2}}
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:<tt><nowiki>{{Fame Unknown|||4}}</nowiki></tt>
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{{Col-2}}
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{{Fame Unknown|||4}}
 
{{Col-end}}
 
{{Col-end}}
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* The following is a suggestive example for the display on your family page:
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{{Fame of the Balancetravellers}}
  
==Hints==
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==Hints From Tom==
Since many players enjoy speculating about the unknown Fame points, here are some hints, directly from Tom himself:
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* Only one Fame point has not yet been collected - all other Fame points have been earned by at least one, usually many. This undiscovered Fame point can be earned in battle.
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* Founding a religion or a guild gives the same Fame. But being the Founder of a "successful" religion grants more Fame in advance.
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* There is a Fame point that can be gained in the infiltrator career (technically also in others, though Tom doubts anyone but an infiltrator could really pull it off). It's not based on Honour, though. <sup>[[#13. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-April/001348.html|[13]]]</sup>
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* Some of the recently added Fame is easier for non-addicts to achieve, so some of the lower families will get Fame, too. <sup>[[#14. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-January/009362.html|[14]]]</sup>
  
* Only one Fame point has not yet been collected - all other Fame points have been earned by at least one, usually many. This undiscovered Fame point can be earned in battle.
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==Plausible Information==
* There is Fame in religion.
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This page contains facts. The sub-page known as "''[[Fame Box/Careful Research|A Careful Reasearch]]''" contains plausible deductions. Use it at your own risk.
* There is Fame for exceptional skill(s).
 
* There is a trader-specific Fame point.
 
* There is a Fame point that can be gained in the infiltrator career (technically also in others, though Tom doubts anyone but an infiltrator could really pull it off). It's not based on Honour, though. <sup>[[#14. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-April/001348.html|[14]]]</sup>
 
* Some of the recently added Fame is easier for non-addicts to achieve, so some of the lower families will get Fame, too. <sup>[[#15. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-January/009362.html|[15]]]</sup>
 
  
 
==Notes==
 
==Notes==
 
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|}
 
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======1. For being elected or appointed.======
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======1. For being elected or appointed; realms minor in size do not grant these Fame points.======
 
======2. For a consecutive reign.======
 
======2. For a consecutive reign.======
======3. For high Prestige of an individual character reaching the value.======
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======3. For high Prestige and/or Honour of an individual character reaching the value.======
 
======4. For high sum of Prestige across all family characters reaching the value.======
 
======4. For high sum of Prestige across all family characters reaching the value.======
 
======5. Leading to the same Fame.======
 
======5. Leading to the same Fame.======
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======8. Usually by [[death#Executions|execution]].======
 
======8. Usually by [[death#Executions|execution]].======
 
======9. The defeated one must actually dies.======
 
======9. The defeated one must actually dies.======
======10. In order to receive all 4 points, the lose of two heroes is needed, one legendary and one non-legendary.======
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======10. In order to receive all 4 points, the lose of two heroes is needed, one legendary and one non-legendary; the exact criteria of a "legendary" status are unknown.======
======11. The exact criteria of a "legendary" status are unknown.======
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======11. Confirmed and have been made known to grant Fame by Tom, but most details still remain unknown.======
======12. Confirmed and have been made known to grant Fame by Tom, but most details still remain unknown.======
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======12. The exact criteria of a "successful" army are unknown.======
======13. The exact criteria of a "successful" religion are unknown.======
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======13. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-April/001348.html======
======14. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-April/001348.html======
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======14. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-January/009362.html======
======15. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-January/009362.html======
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======15. The exact criteria of a "successful" prophet are unknown. [http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2007-February/021062.html]======
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======16. The exact criteria are unknown.======
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======17. 50 Mentor points.======
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======18. Buying one unique item.======

Latest revision as of 10:44, 4 November 2020


The Fame Box is a useful source of information regarding Fame points. It maintains a synchronization with the Fame page, where authoritative information is added by Tom sparingly. With a neater formatting, what you could expect from this page is some more unauthoritative yet plausible information about Fame points. It might not be the fundamental truth, but with some luck, perhaps it will just lead you straight to its gate.

Unlike Lemon Fame 2, this page does not feature wild random shots. All plausible information is at least backed by a certain degree of educated guesses or evidences.

Fame

Offices
FB Ruler.png
Ruler: 0th Day
1
FB Ruler.png
Ruler: 10th Day
4
FB Ruler.png
Ruler: 100th Day
1
FB Duke.png
Duke
2
FB Lord.png
Lord
1
Sum: 12 points

Attributes
FB Prestige.png
Prestige: 10
1
FB Prestige.png
Prestige: 20
1
FB Prestige.png
Prestige: 40
1
FB Wealth.png
Family Wealth: 2000
1
FB Wealth.png
Family Wealth: 5000
1
Sum: 8 points

Events
FB New Palace & Capital.png
New Palace & Capital
1
FB Tournament Host.png
Tournament Host
1
FB Tournament Champion.png
Tournament Champion
3
FB Guild & Religion.png
New Guild & Religion
2
FB Wanted.jpg
Wanted
1
Sum: 18 points

Deaths
FB Death Duel.png
Death Duel Prevalence
1
Sum: 6 points

Unclarities
FB Skill.png
Exceptional Skill
1
Sum: At least 1 point

Unknown
FB Unknown.png
Unknown
?
Sum: At most 7 points


Total: 51 points

Current High: 47 points

Syntax

  • The simplest usage is quite self-explanatory; just the way you would insert a template:

{{Fame Investment}}

  • Most templates feature an extra parameter allowing you to insert a custom message in the bottom part of the central compartment:

{{Fame Investment|<center>(Lilith)</center>}}

FB Investment.png
Family Investment
(Lilith)
1

  • The Palace/Capital template and the Guild/Religion template feature three extra parameters allowing you to not only insert a custom message but choosing between three variations as well:

{{Fame Palace & Capital}}

FB New Palace & Capital.png
New Palace & Capital
1

{{Fame Palace & Capital||Palace||}}

FB New Palace & Capital.png
New Palace & Capital
1

{{Fame Palace & Capital||||Capital}}

FB New Palace & Capital.png
New Palace & Capital
1

{{Fame Palace & Capital|<center>(Lilith)</center>|||Capital}}

FB New Palace & Capital.png
New Palace & Capital
(Lilith)
1

  • The Unknown template features two extra parameters in the second of which you can set the value of the unknown points:

{{Fame Unknown|||4}}

FB Unknown.png
Unknown
?

  • The following is a suggestive example for the display on your family page:
The Balancetravellers

Offices
FB Ruler.png
Ruler: 0th Day
(Lilith, Soujirou)
1
FB Ruler.png
Ruler: 10th Day
(Lilith)
4
FB General.png
General
(Soujirou, Gias Kay)
1
FB Judge.png
Judge
(Lilith)
1
FB Banker.png
Banker
(Lilith)
1
FB Duke.png
Duke
(Soujirou)
2
FB Lord.png
Lord
(Lilith, Gias Kay)
1

Attributes
FB Prestige.png
Prestige: 10
(Gias Kay et al.)
1
FB Prestige.png
Prestige: 20
(Gias Kay et al.)
1
FB Wealth.png
Family Wealth: 2000
1
FB Wealth.png
Family Wealth: 5000
1

Events
FB New Palace & Capital.png
New Palace & Capital
(Lilith)
1
FB Guild & Religion.png
New Guild & Religion
(Gias Kay / The Lilith Within)
2
FB Prophet.png
Prophet
(The Lilith Within)
3
FB Investment.png
Family Investment
(Lilith)
1
FB Outcast.png
Outcast
(Lililth)
1

Deaths
FB Death Duel.png
Death Duel Prevalence
(Lililth; against Edwin)
1

Unclarities
FB Skill.png
Swordfighting Skill
(Lilith; 2006.11.23)
1
FB Skill.png
Preaching Skill
(The Lilith Within; 2007.01.28)
1
FB Skill.png
Leadership Skill
(Lilith; 2007.03.20)
1

Unknown
FB Unknown.png
Unknown
(2006.11.24)
?


Total: 31 points

Hints From Tom

  • Only one Fame point has not yet been collected - all other Fame points have been earned by at least one, usually many. This undiscovered Fame point can be earned in battle.
  • Founding a religion or a guild gives the same Fame. But being the Founder of a "successful" religion grants more Fame in advance.
  • There is a Fame point that can be gained in the infiltrator career (technically also in others, though Tom doubts anyone but an infiltrator could really pull it off). It's not based on Honour, though. [13]
  • Some of the recently added Fame is easier for non-addicts to achieve, so some of the lower families will get Fame, too. [14]

Plausible Information

This page contains facts. The sub-page known as "A Careful Reasearch" contains plausible deductions. Use it at your own risk.

Notes

























1. For being elected or appointed; realms minor in size do not grant these Fame points.
2. For a consecutive reign.
3. For high Prestige and/or Honour of an individual character reaching the value.
4. For high sum of Prestige across all family characters reaching the value.
5. Leading to the same Fame.
6. Requiring Mentor points.
7. The exact criteria of a "successful" tournament are unknown.
8. Usually by execution.
9. The defeated one must actually dies.
10. In order to receive all 4 points, the lose of two heroes is needed, one legendary and one non-legendary; the exact criteria of a "legendary" status are unknown.
11. Confirmed and have been made known to grant Fame by Tom, but most details still remain unknown.
12. The exact criteria of a "successful" army are unknown.
13. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2005-April/001348.html
14. http://news.battlemaster.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-January/009362.html
15. The exact criteria of a "successful" prophet are unknown. [1]
16. The exact criteria are unknown.
17. 50 Mentor points.
18. Buying one unique item.