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Motion for vote on peace with Sirion and terms. | Motion for vote on peace with Sirion and terms. | ||
:Proposer: Theros Landre | |||
Second: Lord Jon Paul Ogren | :Second: Lord Jon Paul Ogren | ||
Do we send them an offer for peace asking for the city of Avamar and the two buffer regions of Elmbar and Limbar, also the regions of Trinbar and Sermbar as a buffer against Sirion City and Sir Temple. And for SoA the city of Parm with the regions that were OR for their part? | :Do we send them an offer for peace asking for the city of Avamar and the two buffer regions of Elmbar and Limbar, also the regions of Trinbar and Sermbar as a buffer against Sirion City and Sir Temple. And for SoA the city of Parm with the regions that were OR for their part? | ||
For: | |||
:Theros Landre | :Theros Landre | ||
:Jon Paul Ogren | :Jon Paul Ogren | ||
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:Eric Redworm (Yielded to the majority and changed vote to for) | :Eric Redworm (Yielded to the majority and changed vote to for) | ||
Against: | |||
:Abstain: | : | ||
Abstain: | |||
:For:20 of the 20 Required | :For:20 of the 20 Required | ||
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=On the Relations between Realm and Faith= | =On the Relations between Realm and Faith= | ||
Proposer: Moira Dubhaine | :Proposer: Moira Dubhaine | ||
Second: Richard Telrunya | :Second: Richard Telrunya | ||
1. All faiths are legal so long as they do not undermine the peace of the realm; | :1. All faiths are legal so long as they do not undermine the peace of the realm; | ||
2. Priests of any lawful faith, so long as they are nobles of Fontan, are free to preach throughout Fontan without the permission of local Lords; | :2. Priests of any lawful faith, so long as they are nobles of Fontan, are free to preach throughout Fontan without the permission of local Lords; | ||
3. These same priests may establish shrines wherever they wish within Fontan; | :3. These same priests may establish shrines wherever they wish within Fontan; | ||
4. Temples and shrines of lawful faiths will not be dismantled except by their lawful owners - i.e. the faith with built them; | :4. Temples and shrines of lawful faiths will not be dismantled except by their lawful owners - i.e. the faith with built them; | ||
5. Lords who follow a lawful faith may construct temples in their regions without restriction; | :5. Lords who follow a lawful faith may construct temples in their regions without restriction; | ||
6. Until priests who are not nobles of Fontan receive permission from the Supreme Justice to preach within Fontan they are forbidden from doing so and both they and their Church will be liable for censure; | :6. Until priests who are not nobles of Fontan receive permission from the Supreme Justice to preach within Fontan they are forbidden from doing so and both they and their Church will be liable for censure; | ||
7. Even once granted such dispensation, foreign priests can be barred from any region by its lawful Lord | :7. Even once granted such dispensation, foreign priests can be barred from any region by its lawful Lord | ||
8. In case of dispute the Supreme Justice will make the ultimate decision as to whether or not a faith has become unlawful after consultation with this Assembly. | :8. In case of dispute the Supreme Justice will make the ultimate decision as to whether or not a faith has become unlawful after consultation with this Assembly. | ||
For: | For: | ||
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:Gilth II Landre | :Gilth II Landre | ||
: | Against: | ||
:Murat Kalkandelen | :Murat Kalkandelen | ||
:Kacher Morlork | :Kacher Morlork | ||
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:Han Han | :Han Han | ||
: | Abstain: | ||
:Aulus Severus of the Scipii | :Aulus Severus of the Scipii | ||
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=Should the Flow be Fontans National Religion= | =Should the Flow be Fontans National Religion= | ||
Proposer: Requiem Rai | :Proposer: Requiem Rai | ||
Seconder: Murat Kalkandelen | :Seconder: Murat Kalkandelen | ||
Should The Flow of the Balance be Fontan's national religion? Fontan's national religion has preaching rights in every region flying Fontan flag, other religions need permission by the region lord for preaching rights. Vote Yes if you think it should be, Vote No if you do not. | Should The Flow of the Balance be Fontan's national religion? Fontan's national religion has preaching rights in every region flying Fontan flag, other religions need permission by the region lord for preaching rights. Vote Yes if you think it should be, Vote No if you do not. | ||
For | For: | ||
Requiem Rai | :Requiem Rai | ||
Murat Kalkandelen | :Murat Kalkandelen | ||
Sulliven Koga | :Sulliven Koga | ||
Simon Doria | :Simon Doria | ||
Elberan Carnes | :Elberan Carnes | ||
Kacher Morlork | :Kacher Morlork | ||
Thorius Furion | :Thorius Furion | ||
Han Han | :Han Han | ||
Luke Cunningham | :Luke Cunningham | ||
Against | Against: | ||
Richard Telrunya | :Richard Telrunya | ||
Gabriella Kinsey | :Gabriella Kinsey | ||
Jon Paul Ogren | :Jon Paul Ogren | ||
Zadek Dragul | :Zadek Dragul | ||
Santiago De-Legro | :Santiago De-Legro | ||
Alise Athins | :Alise Athins | ||
Tal ConDoin | :Tal ConDoin | ||
Byron Lanrezac | :Byron Lanrezac | ||
Kenarth Anaris | :Kenarth Anaris | ||
Basilius Decimus | :Basilius Decimus | ||
Moira Dubhaine | :Moira Dubhaine | ||
Armstrong Ironsides | :Armstrong Ironsides | ||
Zartos ut Daris | :Zartos ut Daris | ||
Abstain | Abstain: | ||
Aulus Severus of the Scipii | :Aulus Severus of the Scipii | ||
Hierarch Darkwind | :Hierarch Darkwind | ||
Votes Cast | :Votes Cast | ||
For: 9 | :For: 9 | ||
Against: 13 | :Against: 13 | ||
Abstain: 2 | :Abstain: 2 | ||
'''Motion Fails''' | :'''Motion Fails''' | ||
: | : | ||
'''''Supreme Justice Duncan places it on Ballot to realm anyway''''' | :'''''Supreme Justice Duncan places it on Ballot to realm anyway''''' | ||
=Impeachment of Supreme Justice Duncan= | =Impeachment of Supreme Justice Duncan= | ||
Proposer: Lord Jon Paul Ogren | :Proposer: Lord Jon Paul Ogren | ||
Second: Sir Kenarth | :Second: Sir Kenarth | ||
Should Supreme justice Duncan be asked to step down from Judge due to conflicts of interest? | Should Supreme justice Duncan be asked to step down from Judge due to conflicts of interest? | ||
Yes: | Yes: | ||
Sir Jon Paul Ogren | :Sir Jon Paul Ogren | ||
No: | No: | ||
: | |||
Abstain: | Abstain: | ||
For: 1 | :For: 1 | ||
Against:0 | :Against:0 | ||
Abstain:0 | :Abstain:0 | ||
'''Still Pending - Waiting for other Motions to finish''' | :'''Still Pending - Waiting for other Motions to finish''' | ||
=Dueling During Wartime= | =Dueling During Wartime= | ||
Motion: Sir Kenarth | :Motion: Sir Kenarth | ||
Second: Sir Jon Paul | :Second: Sir Jon Paul | ||
Affirming that a noble whose honour is slighted has a birthright to seek satisfaction; | :Affirming that a noble whose honour is slighted has a birthright to seek satisfaction; | ||
Recognizing that the interests of Fontan are not served by the injury and death of its members in time of active hostilities; | :Recognizing that the interests of Fontan are not served by the injury and death of its members in time of active hostilities; | ||
It is hereby proposed to amend the law against dueling during wartime with the following provisos: | :It is hereby proposed to amend the law against dueling during wartime with the following provisos: | ||
- Duels to the death in time of war are prohibited | :- Duels to the death in time of war are prohibited | ||
- Any willing pair of nobles may apply to the Supreme Justice for an exemption to the prohibition on dueling to the death in their specific case | :- Any willing pair of nobles may apply to the Supreme Justice for an exemption to the prohibition on dueling to the death in their specific case | ||
- Any noble not under current military orders requiring him to participate in imminent combat may participate in a duel to surrender without asking permission | :- Any noble not under current military orders requiring him to participate in imminent combat may participate in a duel to surrender without asking permission | ||
For: | For: | ||
Theros Landre | :Theros Landre | ||
Kenarth Anaris | :Kenarth Anaris | ||
Luke Cunningham | :Luke Cunningham | ||
Lord Jon Paul Ogren | :Lord Jon Paul Ogren | ||
Against: | Against: | ||
: | |||
Abstain: | Abstain: | ||
For: 4 | :For: 4 | ||
Against:0 | :Against:0 | ||
Abstain:0 | :Abstain:0 | ||
'''Final Results still pending''' | :'''Final Results still pending''' | ||
=Region Lords Religious Rights= | =Region Lords Religious Rights= | ||
Motion: Sir Kenarth | :Motion: Sir Kenarth | ||
Second: Sir Jon Paul | :Second: Sir Jon Paul | ||
Recognizing the right of all nobles to choose their own faith without stricture; | :Recognizing the right of all nobles to choose their own faith without stricture; | ||
Recognizing the necessity to ensure clear, concise, and consistent law and policy in Fontan; | :Recognizing the necessity to ensure clear, concise, and consistent law and policy in Fontan; | ||
It is hereby proposed that all Region Lords be permitted to allow or deny any priest of any faith to preach to the common people in public places within their designated domains. | :It is hereby proposed that all Region Lords be permitted to allow or deny any priest of any faith to preach to the common people in public places within their designated domains. | ||
For: | For: | ||
Sir Jon Paul Ogren | :Sir Jon Paul Ogren | ||
Against: | Against: | ||
: | |||
Abstain: | Abstain: | ||
: | |||
:For: | |||
:Against: | |||
:Abstain: | |||
'''Still Pending - Waiting for other Motions to finish''' | :'''Still Pending - Waiting for other Motions to finish''' | ||
=State Religion= | =State Religion= | ||
Motion: Sir Kenarth | :Motion: Sir Kenarth | ||
Second: Sir Jon Paul | :Second: Sir Jon Paul | ||
Appreciating Fontan's long-standing bond with the Flow of the Balance; | :Appreciating Fontan's long-standing bond with the Flow of the Balance; | ||
Affirming the need to maintain the stability of Fontan's regions and to repel the influences of religions whose tenets call for Fontan's destruction; | :Affirming the need to maintain the stability of Fontan's regions and to repel the influences of religions whose tenets call :for Fontan's destruction; | ||
We hereby propose that the Flow of the Balance be named the one true and official State Religion of Fontan, with privileges under law to be determined at a later date. | :We hereby propose that the Flow of the Balance be named the one true and official State Religion of Fontan, with privileges under law to be determined at a later date. | ||
For: | For: | ||
Against: | Against: | ||
Sir Jon Paul Ogren | :Sir Jon Paul Ogren | ||
Abstain: | Abstain: | ||
: | |||
:For:0 | |||
:Against:1 | |||
:Abstain:0 | |||
:'''Still Pending - Waiting for other Motions to finish''' | |||
'''Still Pending - Waiting for other Motions to finish''' | |||
Latest revision as of 17:50, 28 April 2009
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This is where motions placed before the Fontan Assembly will be recorded.
peace with Sirion and terms
Motion for vote on peace with Sirion and terms.
- Proposer: Theros Landre
- Second: Lord Jon Paul Ogren
- Do we send them an offer for peace asking for the city of Avamar and the two buffer regions of Elmbar and Limbar, also the regions of Trinbar and Sermbar as a buffer against Sirion City and Sir Temple. And for SoA the city of Parm with the regions that were OR for their part?
For:
- Theros Landre
- Jon Paul Ogren
- Zadek Dragul
- Duncan Atreides
- Elberan Carnes
- Hierarch Darkwind
- Tal ConDoin
- Malus Toldor
- Simon Doria
- Kenarth Anaris
- Luna MacGregor
- Alise Athins
- Armstrong Ironsides
- Prandur TithOnanka
- Sulliven Koga
- Hannibal
- Richard Telrunya
- Rillian Wolf
- The Revenger
- Eric Redworm (Yielded to the majority and changed vote to for)
Against:
Abstain:
- For:20 of the 20 Required
- Against:0
- Abstain:0
- Motion Passes
On the Relations between Realm and Faith
- Proposer: Moira Dubhaine
- Second: Richard Telrunya
- 1. All faiths are legal so long as they do not undermine the peace of the realm;
- 2. Priests of any lawful faith, so long as they are nobles of Fontan, are free to preach throughout Fontan without the permission of local Lords;
- 3. These same priests may establish shrines wherever they wish within Fontan;
- 4. Temples and shrines of lawful faiths will not be dismantled except by their lawful owners - i.e. the faith with built them;
- 5. Lords who follow a lawful faith may construct temples in their regions without restriction;
- 6. Until priests who are not nobles of Fontan receive permission from the Supreme Justice to preach within Fontan they are forbidden from doing so and both they and their Church will be liable for censure;
- 7. Even once granted such dispensation, foreign priests can be barred from any region by its lawful Lord
- 8. In case of dispute the Supreme Justice will make the ultimate decision as to whether or not a faith has become unlawful after consultation with this Assembly.
For:
- Moira Dubhaine
- Richard Telrunya
- Thorius Furion
- Tal ConDoin
- Kenarth Anaris
- Byron Lanrezac
- Prandur TithOnanka
- Gabriella Kinsey
- KatalynFae Dragul
- Jon Paul Ogren
- Alise Athins
- Santiago De-Legro
- Hierarch Darkwind
- Basilius Decimus
- Gilth II Landre
Against:
- Murat Kalkandelen
- Kacher Morlork
- Simon Doria
- The Revenger
- Requiem Rai
- Han Han
Abstain:
- Aulus Severus of the Scipii
- Votes Cast
- For: 15
- Against: 6
- Abstentions: 1
- Motion passes
Should the Flow be Fontans National Religion
- Proposer: Requiem Rai
- Seconder: Murat Kalkandelen
Should The Flow of the Balance be Fontan's national religion? Fontan's national religion has preaching rights in every region flying Fontan flag, other religions need permission by the region lord for preaching rights. Vote Yes if you think it should be, Vote No if you do not.
For:
- Requiem Rai
- Murat Kalkandelen
- Sulliven Koga
- Simon Doria
- Elberan Carnes
- Kacher Morlork
- Thorius Furion
- Han Han
- Luke Cunningham
Against:
- Richard Telrunya
- Gabriella Kinsey
- Jon Paul Ogren
- Zadek Dragul
- Santiago De-Legro
- Alise Athins
- Tal ConDoin
- Byron Lanrezac
- Kenarth Anaris
- Basilius Decimus
- Moira Dubhaine
- Armstrong Ironsides
- Zartos ut Daris
Abstain:
- Aulus Severus of the Scipii
- Hierarch Darkwind
- Votes Cast
- For: 9
- Against: 13
- Abstain: 2
- Motion Fails
- Supreme Justice Duncan places it on Ballot to realm anyway
Impeachment of Supreme Justice Duncan
- Proposer: Lord Jon Paul Ogren
- Second: Sir Kenarth
Should Supreme justice Duncan be asked to step down from Judge due to conflicts of interest?
Yes:
- Sir Jon Paul Ogren
No:
Abstain:
- For: 1
- Against:0
- Abstain:0
- Still Pending - Waiting for other Motions to finish
Dueling During Wartime
- Motion: Sir Kenarth
- Second: Sir Jon Paul
- Affirming that a noble whose honour is slighted has a birthright to seek satisfaction;
- Recognizing that the interests of Fontan are not served by the injury and death of its members in time of active hostilities;
- It is hereby proposed to amend the law against dueling during wartime with the following provisos:
- - Duels to the death in time of war are prohibited
- - Any willing pair of nobles may apply to the Supreme Justice for an exemption to the prohibition on dueling to the death in their specific case
- - Any noble not under current military orders requiring him to participate in imminent combat may participate in a duel to surrender without asking permission
For:
- Theros Landre
- Kenarth Anaris
- Luke Cunningham
- Lord Jon Paul Ogren
Against:
Abstain:
- For: 4
- Against:0
- Abstain:0
- Final Results still pending
Region Lords Religious Rights
- Motion: Sir Kenarth
- Second: Sir Jon Paul
- Recognizing the right of all nobles to choose their own faith without stricture;
- Recognizing the necessity to ensure clear, concise, and consistent law and policy in Fontan;
- It is hereby proposed that all Region Lords be permitted to allow or deny any priest of any faith to preach to the common people in public places within their designated domains.
For:
- Sir Jon Paul Ogren
Against:
Abstain:
- For:
- Against:
- Abstain:
- Still Pending - Waiting for other Motions to finish
State Religion
- Motion: Sir Kenarth
- Second: Sir Jon Paul
- Appreciating Fontan's long-standing bond with the Flow of the Balance;
- Affirming the need to maintain the stability of Fontan's regions and to repel the influences of religions whose tenets call :for Fontan's destruction;
- We hereby propose that the Flow of the Balance be named the one true and official State Religion of Fontan, with privileges under law to be determined at a later date.
For:
Against:
- Sir Jon Paul Ogren
Abstain:
- For:0
- Against:1
- Abstain:0
- Still Pending - Waiting for other Motions to finish