Template talk:Realms of Atamara

I'd suggest you put a line between lost realms and existing realms. Now it's kinda guessing which realms belong to chich category if you don't have any historical knowledge about Atamara... Foreign Curs 21:02, 15 February 2007 (CET)

There is no need. Not only are lost realms emphasised but the realms are listed in alphabetical order from 'A' after the extant realms - Revan 21:17, 15 February 2007 (CET)

Still, the point of a template is to make things clearer with styles and borders. If you want to use Italic to make it clear you shouldn't even bother to make a template. Since there is a template, use it fully otherwise it's kinda wasted effort. Foreign Curs 22:33, 15 February 2007 (CET)

In that case I'd like to suggest a compromise: that both categories be restricted to two columns in size, the number of rows really doesn't matter if it makes it easier to read as a template. --Bannable 23:02, 15 February 2007 (CET)

The two columns thing doesn't really work anymore. Not not that we've had so many realms --Revan 09:09, 28 February 2007 (CET)

This list is starting to get a little messy. Something needs to be done to make it look better. As time goes by, there will be more and more Lost Realms, while the Current Realms will stay about the same size. That means the right side of the table will just get bigger and bigger. Perhaps this should be broken up into two tables, or vertically stacked, with Current Realms on top, and Lost Realms at the bottom. --Indirik 14:10, 28 February 2007 (CET)

When is a Realm "Lost"?

At what point does a realm join the Lost Realms column? Currently, my chars can message the Pontifex of the Protectorate of Magnus and in the Information > Diplomatic Relations page, I can still see both Kronos' Burg and the Protectorate of Magnus. Information > Realms shows that Kronos' Burg has no population and no nobles. The Protectorate of Magnus has no population, yet 7 nobles. Neither one have regions. I'm not trying to split hairs, I just don't know. --Tinsley 23:24, 10 April 2008 (CEST)

Generally, when a realm loses it's last city or perhaps it's last region, it is a "Lost Realm". Without a city it can't recruit troops (no capital) and with no troops it can't capture a new city for a capital... It's generally pretty obvious when a realm is "Lost". (Technically, as long as it has one region left, it could be given a city, but once the last region is gone it's impossible for it to come back.) Once a realm loses it's last region it is liable to be deleted at any time, whenever Tom gets around to it. (It's a manual process.) Some realms have gone for 6 months before getting deleted, some for only a week or two. --Indirik 00:16, 11 April 2008 (CEST)

Thanks. I was in Valentia on BT when it got "lost." Didn't know how that worked. Now I do. --Tinsley 02:50, 11 April 2008 (CEST)