Talk:The Free South Times/Issue:5

Did you actually say VUR HAGIN or Dyomogue? I actually hope its the latter, I'm not sure I trust you secessionists on Fronenian soil, especially a city region whose Duke is ill ((OOC: Paused, on vacation)) --Alex 16:57, 23 July 2007 (CEST) (Character: Alexius)

It'll get better when you find out who'se in the RoF party. ;) -Chénier 18:04, 23 July 2007 (CEST)

Complain complain, if you're so afraid of us why not just appoint a duke and stop whining? I'm in no mood for more of this nonsense---Hyral 6:38, 23 July 2007 (EST)

I'm sorry Baiko, but I just can't understand why you secessionists would want to come to Vur Hagin other than to perform some sort of covert operation. --Alex 00:48, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

How about because we care about humanity more than the petty grudges that you can't seem to get past? Seriously, one would think that when our existence as a whole comes into question that people would be intelligent enough to cooperate and get beyond their silly paranoias, apparently not though. ---Hyral 12:39, 24 July 2007 (EST)

I always thought there'd be at least one person better with a sword than me in the south, but it seems it isn't so. Thanks for the 500 gold. --Bannable 18:17, 23 July 2007 (CEST)

We're heading to Dyomoque. But, if we were headed to Vur Hagin, it would be immediately behind/with a Riombaran army, who we were somewhat coordinating with. There are Daimons near there, correct? Well, we're on a crusade right now. We're sort of looking around for Daimons to help kill. Also, note, only one nation in Beluaterra was made by an, erm... illegitimate/foreign influenced secession. That nation is Kingdom of Alluran, an ECA nation. All CCA secessions were internally inspired and, erm, legitimate. Or, at least, as legitimate as secessions get. We don't do the sort of secessions that Distorted did (and tried to do on later occasions). Also, interestingly enough, Fronen holds the current record for largest economic contributor to the Irombrozian war effort. Many of your TLs, back when we were fighting LdB, then Riombara, were quite generous in giving to us. We had quite an efficient relay system spanning from Fronen to Irombrozia for gold shipments and, for that reason, Irombrozia has always sort of... thought fondly of Fronen. Oh well, not everyone youlike likes you back, I suppose. Vellos 04:29, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

Were you to come with a Riombaran army, perhaps your aid would be welcomed. That's Grego's call. Fronen's qualms with Irombro stem from the animosity between your government and Riombara's as well as your government's support for the Fwuvoghoran regime. I think though, that our own forces, the undead army, the Melhesian contingent, as well as the Riombaran reinforccements will form a coalition strong enough to defeat the 13k CS of Daimons threatening Vur Hagin. Better to rely on that force rather than an army we've opposed recently. That's my opinion, for whatever it's worth. --Alex 08:31, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

An army you opposed? Ahem, Fronenians have never fought Irombrozians, thank you very much. Hopefully we never will. But, indeed, the force ya'll mustered should be enough. In fact, the Irombrozian army is miniscule. We were only able to rally about 2k or less for this first campaign. We march not to victory, but to death. For we believe that, perhaps, we can buy a lasting peace with the ECA by shedding our blood alongside them and in coordination with them as bravely and as frequently as possible. Vellos 16:12, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

I chose the term opposed deliberately. I know we've never fought directly on the battlefield, Fwuvoghoran treachery made that impossible. However, Irombrozia is a part of the Enweil Bloc, and you've certainly attacked Fronen's allies in the past. There's no denying that our countries have been at an opposite sides politically speaking. Anyway, peace with the ECA means coming to an agreement with Riombara, and lowering diplomatic ties with Fwuvoghor. Eventually, the ECA will destroy Fwuvoghor and your ties with them will be ended by force, but with the Daimonic invasion that's a bit far off. Atleast peace with the duchy of Mhed will come that way, I cannot speak for Tiridius or the temporarily absent Duke Dreadknight. --Alex 16:25, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

My, you northerners really are bitter aren't you? Please understand, Irombrozia has never considered itself an enemy of Fronen, nor even on an opposite political side. We barely even think that way about Riombara. The reason is that, really, we don't think in terms of political alliances, we think in terms of similar heritages and ideologies. And, on that basis, we are very closely alligned with Fronen and Riombara. We were at war with Riombara because King Marc believed a pre-emptive strike was the only viable course of action and, since then, neither us nor Riombara have forwarded any truly viable peace option (largely because Riombara isn't interested in peace with us, but we've been... somewhat belligerent, you might say). And I'm not sure how we're in the Enweil Bloc. We had an alliance with Luz de Bia/Enweil against KoA, and we extended the alliance with LdB because of the common conflict with Rio. The Enweil alliance we just... never really had a reason to cut short, and ECA nations seem to not really like raising relations with us, so being on the other side of the conflict really isn't an option. If we could, we'd be neutral. Unfortunately (as it seems to us), neutrality was never really an option. Well, it was, but it was a suicidal one. Vellos 22:33, 24 July 2007 (CEST)