Talk:Dwilight Daily/2008/October/2

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What is this outrage? You've allowed a rogue to report for you? This is a violation of our very feudal hierarchy! -- Sejieda, Vita Family 09:35, 2 October 2008 (CEST)

Rogue I may be, but I am scouting the west for a force far greater than your being. Goodday, Hericus Le-Fay

More than a few worthy nobles have been or currently are in these regions. -Chénier 15:52, 2 October 2008 (CEST)
Exactly, we can accept news reports from our fellow nobles, not threats to our very way of life, like you rogues are. -- Sejieda, Vita Family 23:06, 2 October 2008 (CEST)
A noble is a noble, regardless of the status of his current oath of service, or lack thereof. Nobility is a trait of the blood, not beholden upon the status of service. You may not like him, or you may not care for the fact that he is sworn to no lord, but you cannot deny the nobility that runs in his veins. --Brance Indirik
Yet he openly rejects our noble hierarchy, which is a danger to all of us. He should be scorned, not honored with being listened to. -- Sejieda, Vita Family 17:38, 3 October 2008 (CEST)
There are times in a noble's life when he is forced to walk a path alone to follow where his honor and duty lead him. Is this duty that is dedicated to a lord, or to a realm? No, it is not. But there may still be honor in it. Perhaps it is a duty to his gods, or a duty to all of humanity. This path is not a path for all nobility. That does not, however, declare him an enemy of nobility. I, for one, am no so insecure in my position that I insist that all of nobility follow the path that I have chosen. --Brance Indirik
Yes, one can be an unaligned noble. That is the path you speak of. But one doesn't have to reject the entire hierarchy. Such a noble sets a dangerous precedent. Hericus has been banned from many realms too. Why does he have such trouble fitting in with his fellow nobles? -- Sejieda, Vita Family 21:52, 3 October 2008 (CEST)
Perhaps Sir Hericus has not yet found the place where he fits in. Some nobles take longer than others to find their proper place. I personally have had no personal contact with him. I will reserve my judgment of him until I have had the opportunity to meet the man for myself. --Brance Indirik
Yes, but not finding your place shouldn't mean rejecting the entire hierarchy of our society. You can't just reject it because you don't fit in. If you do, it begins a crack in our entire way of life. It shouldn't be hard to find a realm where he can be an unaligned noble if he wishes. If it is, perhaps it speaks of his character? -- Sejieda, Vita Family 22:07, 3 October 2008 (CEST)
Have you any evidence that Sir Hericus has rejected the feudal hierarchy of the nobility? Do you know him personally, and have you talked with him regarding his viewpoints? Or are you merely making such an assumption because at present he has no liege lord? --Brance Indirik
No, but plenty of nobles have had no liege lords and I have no issues with them. He has flat out refused to join any society. He flirts in a world of no allegiance to anyone. The very fact he is rogue is evidence of that. -- Sejieda, Vita Family 01:14, 4 October 2008 (CEST)
Yes, I know of him and his kind all too much, which is why I granted him a generous two minutes as a noble of D'Hara. The gods willed the feudal system which made us who we are. Hericus swears to no one, what, does he think that makes him a king now? He is the scum of the world, and it is a disgrace to even mention his name. That people would actually work with him is disgusting. --Machiavel Chénier
The reason I am a rogue is because of a campaign of slander against me spearheaded by ex High King Fisc Arylon, and Lady Lyse and Judge Banker Machiavel Chenier. They contrived to have me banned from realms that I join, to fulfill a petty vendetta. Goodday,Hericus Le-Fay
And everyone on the continent believes them? Seems unbelievable to me. -- Sejieda, Vita Family 19:17, 4 October 2008 (CEST)
Hericus Le-Fay is indeed a foul wretch of bad blood and questionable heritage. I would not take anything he says seriously and would love to see him hung, drawn and quartered. Karibash ka Habb George the Hippy 20:40, 4 October 2008 (CEST)
This would be news to her Majesty Queen Alanna Anaris, who welcomed Sir Hericus into Pian en Luries for a while before he chose to leave for the west. She has heard nothing against Hericus, and thus far, is quite pleased with his work in scouting the west and would be glad to welcome him back into her Kingdom (provided he does not anger the Daimons in the meantime). -- Kyra, Royal Aide to Queen Alanna Anaris 15:00, 6 October 2008 (CEST)
Indeed, the scouting reports we are receiving from Sir Hericus are by far more enlightening than any other information we have been receiving so far. Too many people seem to be attempting to hide the information, and control its dissemination for their own purposes. That is hardly a behavior that engenders trust. --Indirik 15:57, 6 October 2008 (CEST)
Kyra, and Hericus couldn't stay an unaligned noble of Pian, but had to leave the entire hierarchy of feudal society? -- Sejieda, Vita Family 19:47, 6 October 2008 (CEST)
If he had chosen to, I see no reason why he could not have. However, he chose to join Shadovar and head west. That was the last we heard of him before he started sending scout reports. Whatever his reasons for becoming a rogue, they were not related to Pian en Luries, and he will be welcomed back to Pian en Luries if he returns (provided he has done nothing criminal in the interim). -- Kyra, Royal Aide to Queen Alanna Anaris 22:46, 8 October 2008 (CEST)
What about consorting with daimons? Last I heard, rogues could not pick units from trees, yet there he is, taking a short trip out of Nightmarch, and returning with a brand new set of soldiers! While some are discussing with them to better understand their nature, others have clearly diverging interests. --Machiavel Chénier
Brand new unit? I have only one man left, thanks to the daimons slaughtering the rest. So far the only one scouting and helping humanity near Nightmarch has been I, while a certain Judge/Banker Machiavel Chenier has been striking deals with the daimons and trading weapons with them! You have been there for weeks, and only I have been scouting and spreading information, while you talk with them!! Talk about Hypocrisy. Goodday, Hericus Le-Fay
How have you been helping? You gave some scout reports... but that has but confirmed what everyone already knew. How did you learn about these daimons' physiology? That they have seven eyes? That one of the leaders is a female? Whereas I have exchanged a common eating knife with a local human for information, I believe it is clear what kind of contacts you have had. --Machiavel Chénier
Cant you count the eyes of a creature you see? Or distinguish their gender? I also witnessed your trading with the daimons, so please stop the hypocrisy. Goodday, Hericus Le-Fay
Then your eyesight is as great as your honour... you may as well start walking with a cane, or you'll fall into the sea. ---Machiavel Chénier