Talk:Beluaterra/Fourth Age

Personal Versions of History

No doubt the way that things happened will be viewed differently by different people. Let's not get into various biased accounts of events. Try and keep this page as factual as possible. If necessary, add an infobox or something, with your on personal, alternative version of events, and tag it as such. There's nothing wrong with having multiple versions, so long as we know where they come from. That way people can judge for themselves as to which version they can believe. --Indirik (talk), Editor (talk) 17:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I've attempted to clean it up a bit. It certainly was a bit anti-Riombaran biased in the bit about the south... though it seems to me that Danaris maybe overdid his revisions. I have edited it to try and limit weasel words (probably missed several), and, where possible, present both views. Unfortunately the reality of that war is such that every issue has two very different and important sides... as the war is entirely about a theoretical and abstract issue of "sovereignty." Thus choice of words becomes exceptionally important. Whatever the case, my revision certainly isn't perfect, and certainly is wordy... but hopefully it is an improvement. Vellos 03:46, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

While we are at this, can we please please PLEASE avoid being as uncreative and boring as using the great war name for the one millionth time? --Ethan Lee Vita (Talk), Editor and Community Manager 08:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Pathetic how everyone's undoing my work to spew forth such horrible propaganda. My versions were biased as they focused on one part of the story, but it wasn't made-up bullcrap, it wasn't to mislead or twist the truth. Most of these corrections aren't the "giving a full account" type I would have expected, it's simply removing a valid version of the events by total bullcrap. And from a Dev too? Sad, Delvin, really freaking sad. As for the war in the south, I used the " " for a reason. "Delvin's War" is an obviously biased name, but it's also the *only* name used to refer to the war. -Chénier 22:27, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

It's obviously not the only name used to refer to the war, since someone else put in another name. :) --Indirik (talk), Editor (talk) 00:30, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

You really have to stop and think, Dominic, when you start to believe that your version of events is the only one that's valid, and everything else is "total bullcrap". What I put are the facts as I understand them, with a small amount of Riombaran spin. I don't try to claim that what you put was "total bullcrap;" please have the courtesy and common sense to recognize that your version is just as much propaganda as mine. --Anaris 13:34, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Does the current version work for you Tim? I'd like to have the history be fair and not favor either side... but, like Ethan says... I'd like to see it not be a dull recounting of boringly explained events. So, are you good with the current version? I'd like to see us be able to come to some kind of mutually accepted version for wiki pages that should be spinless (heh, spinless... spineless...). Vellos 14:09, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

You are right, your revision is not as extensive as I first thought. With so many edits in such short notice, it's hard to tell. Ceorl, on the other hand. -Chénier 17:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I think that's enough with the revision wars

There's been enough revisions and changes of changes. At this point, I think we need to agree to disagree. If someone thinks that the current account is still not correct, then please write your own separate account and either link to it, or place it in an infobox on the page, and sign it with your character's name. --Indirik (talk), Editor (talk) 00:36, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Did continue the history - I tried to be as impartial as possible, please correct me where I am wrong, have missed important details or was too biased. TanSerrai 16:00, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

If someone has additional details from the center or west of Beluaterra, please add them. I simply know too little about what is happening there to do the history justice. TanSerrai 08:17, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Added Fourth Invasion

I know nothing about the fourth invasion (I don't have a character on the island), but was surprised to not see it mentioned. I've added something as a starting point.