Talk:Semantic Wiki

Redirects

How should we deal with them? I figure a realm should have a [[Government::Theocracy]] tag so that we can have a table, in the wiki, sort the realms by the government system, just like IG. However, "Theocracy" re-directs to "Government System", and as such the realm is listed as having "Government System" as "Government" instead of "Theocracy". How should we address this? -Chénier 03:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Switching it for a Type:String seems to have addressed the issue I saw. Seems fixed, for now. -Chénier 04:16, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Kudos

Once the battlemaster data can be extended to the wiki to remove manual inputs and have the wiki truly automaticly update itself, we'll be in a whole new, more user-friendly era of the game's wiki. The game could then compensate for the holes this will leave in the wiki's history files (okay, Bob is ruler now, but who was before him?), by having its own history logs which would also be a lot more accurate and reliable than manual inputs (if a page is only modified twice in three years, there is a good chance that there is a few judges and generals that have passed between both versions of the page). Anyways, I'm seeing great potential for this. First application I started is for realms, with functions for each council positions, number of nobles, of regions, the population, largest city, capital, state religion, and government type, though this could also be extended to include estimated food and gold production, as is available IG. Religions could also use their own system, as other cases could... We'll need a page like Meta:Style Guide so that we don't start seeing clone functions ("Island" and "Continent", for example). Anyways, this is quite an amazing step forward for the game's wiki, kudos for that. -Chénier 04:31, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

So far:

I'm not sure on which page you'll want this, and how you'll want it displayed... here's what we got so far, anyways.

• Property::Island - has type::string
• Property::Population - has type::Number
• Property:Ruler‎ - type::string
• Property:Modification - has type::string
• Property:State Religion‎ - has type::page
• Property:Realm Name‎ - has type::page
• Property:Largest City‎ - has type::page
• Property:Judge‎ - has type::string
• Property:Government - has type::string
• Property:General‎ - has type::string
• Property:Capital‎ - has type::page
• Property:Banker‎ - has type::string
• Property:Region Number‎ - has type::Number
• Property:Nobles‎ - has type::Number

-Chénier 04:54, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

A lot of these are good, some not. "Capital", for example does not denote a semantic relation. "capital of" does. Likewise, my first try "Island" sucks, "located on" is the semantic relation. "largest city" is an absolute no-go. That's exactly the kind of crap that we want to get rid of! We want "population", and then finding out the largest city is a simple query away. Besides, "largest city" of what? the realm? the island? the weather area? the player has ever seen?

All positions and other rapidly-changing data is a topic all for itself. It probably requires additional data such as dates (from when until when?).

AS I said, there's probably a little bit of discussion and refinement before we should start actually changing stuff.

--Tom 08:06, 4 February 2009 (UTC)