Talk:Artemesia Family/Garret/Treatise Letters

Why Some Pages Referenced Are No Longer Part of the Wiki

The pages having to do with the Scarlet Trinity and Excellence and such have all been removed by my request. Why? Well, first of all, the pages were meant to give interested players the content of an RP device placed in-game. Sure, I gave in-character links to it. That gives other characters and players information only about the content, and tells nothing about the background story at all.

Think about it, hypothetically, if you find my tax forms on some website, do you know whether it was I who voluntarily placed it there, or whether some hacker stole it and posted it? You don't, unless you are either me or the hacker. And yes, you can find empirical evidence to prove one over the other, but would you know whether I wanted the documents posted online, or whether I had any knowledge of it? No, unless you are me, you do not know what I am thinking.

So when I originally wrote the wiki pages, I did so with the intention of letting players who wanted to immerse themselves have a little fun. Did I plan having this current situation happening in-game? Yes, and no. I knew there would be conflict over it, but I had specifically done so with the plan to work an in-game roleplaying story fashioned after Rashomon. Unfortunately, too many people place automatic weight on wiki edits. So what if a previous edit looks different? I said in the game, through my character that one was false, one was real. Are you the author? Would you know which one is real? Both in-game and out-of-game, are you the one writing the pages I chose to share with you? If not, who are you to say whether the first link I gave you in the wiki was true as opposed to the second page or third page?

As for why I gave it through one character, and never roleplayed something like, "It was stolen!", well first off, there is something called "mystery". How enjoyable would it be had I used a message that read, essentially, "John Doe stole a book called 'The Scarlet Trinity of Excellence' and passed it along. In a few months someone will call it heretical, etc."? Mind you, that means I would not even give you a wiki link in the first place either. Then what, you wouldn't even know the contents except what I choose to tell you. Besides, there could have been players either not part of SA or even part of Dwilight, who might have saw the pages I wrote, and maybe decided to hop into Dwilight just to create some in-game drama. Doubtful, but certainly not having anything and leaving me to tell you all what is written exactly is quite boring and doesn't let more people participate.

Obviously even in-game I fully expect characters to believe what they believe. However, there should not be a strict adherence to wiki pages as absolute truth, and you do not know anyway which edit is true. So pointing out inconsistencies in in-game messages is fine, and encouraged. Trying to point to the wiki as forensic evidence is not the point of this game. Remember, we're not playing Wikimaster. You can't just off-handedly point to the wiki and say, "You changed the contents of the page because I compared the current version with the previous version, therefore you are lying now." There are in-game roleplays I'm giving to people giving them the background to the content, and if you don't want to read those and want only to point at the wiki, then you all don't get a wiki page anymore. It's meant to be a atmosphere enhancer, not a distraction.

So some of you might say that it was rather immature of me to just delete the wiki pages over this. I will just say that I chose to share my works with you. I never had to, and I never said you had to read it. We're supposed to play this game, within the actual game. The wiki is a useful tool to help us record things that would have otherwise been lost in-game, or to provide help for a larger audience. It is not meant to be some forensic evidence for wiki detectives to use as IC arguments to shoot down attempts at making a story that explains things in-game. --Qmasterflex86 15:01, 29 August 2009 (UTC)