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This is where you can add new ideas for items for adventurers to gather.
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This is where you can add new ideas for [[Adventurer/Items|Items]] for adventurers to gather.
  
 
All items should be one of the following:
 
All items should be one of the following:
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I did not include Quartz or Beryl because they are more like species of gem instead of actual gems, but some of their varieties are included above.  It might also be nice to include the quality of the gem in its name, or perhaps the sage could "appraise" the gem.  (Precious vs semi-precious is a distinction of type, not quality.)  If quality is something we want to work into the game, here are the basic measures of quality.
 
I did not include Quartz or Beryl because they are more like species of gem instead of actual gems, but some of their varieties are included above.  It might also be nice to include the quality of the gem in its name, or perhaps the sage could "appraise" the gem.  (Precious vs semi-precious is a distinction of type, not quality.)  If quality is something we want to work into the game, here are the basic measures of quality.
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Added by [[User:Vlad|Vlad]] 18:35, 29 March 2011 (CEST)
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* Topaz
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* Bloodstone (Chalcedony)
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* Quartz
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* Smokey Quartz
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* Labradorite
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* Pearl
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* Amber
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* Turqouise
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* Coral
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* Star Saphire
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* Color
 
* Color
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===Animal Parts===
 
===Animal Parts===
  
~Hoary Marmot Leather
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* Rabbit's foot (submitted by JF)
 
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* Long sharp horn, probably coming from some terrifying monster
Alligator (Or some other reptile) skin/scales (submitted by JF)
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* Deer skull
 
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* Bear claw, symbol of strength
Bag of Dried out Frogs (intact) (submitted by JF)
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* Moose antlers
 
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* Live ferret (in a cage)
Rabbit's foot (submitted by JF)
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* Ivory ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])
 
 
Long sharp horn, probably coming from some terrifying monster
 
 
 
Deer skull
 
 
 
Troll's tooth
 
 
 
Bear claw, symbol of strength
 
 
 
Rhino hide, could be made into a fine leather armour
 
 
 
Eagle's feather, Albatros' feather, Phoenix' feather? (fake?)
 
 
 
Rattlesnake rattle
 
 
 
Mountain lion skull
 
 
 
Petrified bone
 
 
 
Moose antlers
 
 
 
Live ferret (in a cage)
 
 
 
Salmon dorsal fin
 
 
 
Ambergris
 
 
 
Monster teeth (some lords offer bounties for monsters - these could be use to collect bounties from monsters in other regions. Would have a chance to be caught as falsifying kills - possible jail, but lucrative for cash)
 
 
 
Ivory ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])
 
  
 
===Materials===
 
===Materials===
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A draught of quicksilver ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])<br>
 
A draught of quicksilver ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])<br>
Hair of a bald man / voice of a mute / other impossibilities ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])<br>
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A dram of saltpetre ''(perhaps the components would be more suitable since Tom has said that no gunpowder exists)'' ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]]) ''(Actually saltpetre is just potassium nitrate, so it -is- a component. Unless you want to make Potassium Nitrogen and Oxygen atoms as item components. It has other uses besides gunpowder)'' ([[User:Japheth|Japheth]])<br>
Firefly's glow ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])<br>
 
Exactly seven grains of sand ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])<br>
 
A dram of saltpetre ''(perhaps the components would be more suitable since Tom has said that no gunpowder exists)'' ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])<br>
 
 
chunk of brimstone ''(sulphur - it burns with blue flame, it melts to blood-red liquid that becomes thicker as it heats, what more mystic and yet historical material can you ask for?)'' ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])<br>
 
chunk of brimstone ''(sulphur - it burns with blue flame, it melts to blood-red liquid that becomes thicker as it heats, what more mystic and yet historical material can you ask for?)'' ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])<br>
  
 
===Miscellaneous Items===
 
===Miscellaneous Items===
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Parts of things, used to create a whole:
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*Pommel, hilt, and blade.
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*Ring band, setting, small gem.
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*Gold chain, pedant.
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*Tools or weapons lacking a shaft:
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**Shovel blade, axe head, hammer head, spear point, halberd blade, glaive
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The idea being that one would visit a craftsman to repair these things. This is similar to a sage, but not involving magical items. These could just be worth good money, or could add to the adventuring or combat skill of the wielder. 
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(Hope you are still accepting ideas: Joshua Ferguson)
 
(Hope you are still accepting ideas: Joshua Ferguson)
 
Bottle of Wine (Submitted by JF)
 
  
 
Small Pouch of Tools (Submitted by JF)
 
Small Pouch of Tools (Submitted by JF)
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:hardtack, fruitcake - ''Other foods, like the honey that already exists, that were made as travel food.  Note also that honey was used to help prevent infections on wounds.''
 
:hardtack, fruitcake - ''Other foods, like the honey that already exists, that were made as travel food.  Note also that honey was used to help prevent infections on wounds.''
 
:blanket - ''perhaps factored into the weather system allowing better sleep during the cold times''
 
:blanket - ''perhaps factored into the weather system allowing better sleep during the cold times''
:livestock - ''a chicken, or perhaps a pig, suitable for sale at the market''
 
 
:a block of salt - ''the most ancient seasoning addition - also suitable as an material ingredient''
 
:a block of salt - ''the most ancient seasoning addition - also suitable as an material ingredient''
  
'Wrong' currencies: ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])
 
:lower denomination - ''copper coins, or a bag of 'bits' or 'pieces of (eight)' dropped by a merchant for making change''
 
:foreign - ''normal, current currency, but from the wrong realm, perhaps worth something to a visiting foreigner or in a border town.  Being a commoner you can't read what realm they're from, so you can't simply go to that realm to redeem them.''
 
:outdated - ''the prior ruler/monarch's visage graces these coins.  They're probably usable but worth far less than they used to be''
 
:ancient - ''coinage from a long-expired realm, worthless as currency but worth something to learned men''
 
  
 
Games: ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])
 
Games: ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])
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:spices - ''from common pepper to fine and exotic spices worth hefty sums, these make tainted meat more palatable''
 
:spices - ''from common pepper to fine and exotic spices worth hefty sums, these make tainted meat more palatable''
 
:incense - ''Smells nice.  Prized by some clergy."
 
:incense - ''Smells nice.  Prized by some clergy."
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:battered tome - "This musty old book may be of use to someone who can read" (Submitted by Trismegistus)
  
 
Clothes: (trying to limit it to that which would be worth reselling) ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])
 
Clothes: (trying to limit it to that which would be worth reselling) ([[User:Westgate|Westgate]])
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===Stuff not sumitted by JF===
 
===Stuff not sumitted by JF===
 
Bear glass/bottle
 
 
Cooked Meet
 
  
 
Royal Pardon
 
Royal Pardon
 
Gold/siver Coin droped by soneone
 
  
 
Keys  
 
Keys  
 
Fish
 
  
 
Broken Armour/Broken(bent arrow)
 
Broken Armour/Broken(bent arrow)
 
1-4 dose of medicine/poison
 
 
Pie
 
  
 
Tobacco Leaves (#)
 
Tobacco Leaves (#)
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Compass
 
Compass
 
Lantern
 
 
Looking Glass
 
  
 
Shovel
 
Shovel
  
 
Potato Moonshine (#)
 
Potato Moonshine (#)
 
Bottle of Wine
 
  
 
Bird Cage
 
Bird Cage
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Tinder Box with flint and steel
 
Tinder Box with flint and steel
 
Shuriken
 
  
 
Deck of Cards
 
Deck of Cards
  
 
Fang necklace ("Some hunters add fangs of their prey to a piece of string, as testimony of their skill. This time a hunter has fallen prey himself and this necklace is all that's left.")
 
Fang necklace ("Some hunters add fangs of their prey to a piece of string, as testimony of their skill. This time a hunter has fallen prey himself and this necklace is all that's left.")
 
Wooden leg
 
 
old birdsnest
 
 
Spy Glass (by Valast)
 
  
 
* Mandrake - A woodland herb with reported mystical powers: . . . [http://www.monstrous.com/monsters/mandrake.htm] . . . [http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/m/mandra10.html]. . . [http://www.alchemy-works.com/herb_mandrake.html] . . .(many other references)
 
* Mandrake - A woodland herb with reported mystical powers: . . . [http://www.monstrous.com/monsters/mandrake.htm] . . . [http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/m/mandra10.html]. . . [http://www.alchemy-works.com/herb_mandrake.html] . . .(many other references)
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(#)(footnote) - Tobacco, Potatoes, Tomatoes, Chili Peppers, Maize and Squash were unknown in Europe until Columbus. (And therefore unknown in Asia as well.) Amazing how cuisine has changed, isn't it?  
 
(#)(footnote) - Tobacco, Potatoes, Tomatoes, Chili Peppers, Maize and Squash were unknown in Europe until Columbus. (And therefore unknown in Asia as well.) Amazing how cuisine has changed, isn't it?  
 
So how much influence is there from 'the Americas' on BM? --[[User:Recluse|Recluse]] 17:41, 17 May 2007 (CEST)
 
So how much influence is there from 'the Americas' on BM? --[[User:Recluse|Recluse]] 17:41, 17 May 2007 (CEST)
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not sure if some one put the following things before.
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Hammer,
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vinegar,
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Fishing gear like fishing rod, fishing net,
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Glove,
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Nice looking hat,
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Bucket,
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Mushroom, make some moshroom poisonous,
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wild chichen egg,
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wild turkey as a monster you can kill?
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pickaxe,
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Bag that let you carry things around,
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falls asleep if you got too much fatigue
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Chair,
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pottery,
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Fire wood,
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local map,
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Knife,
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Seconding the Boots suggestion above, though perhaps not as fancy. <i>A pair of worn homemade leather boots, they can stretch just enough for you to wear them.</i> They could reduce amount of fatigue gained when hunting or travelling, as they'd save your feet from wear and tear.<br>
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Also, I think Lockpicks would make a good rare usable item. "<i>A small pouch of metal lockpicks in good condition - their owner will regret losing these.</i>" As it is, and I know it's on purpose, if commoners get caught and imprisoned for any reason, they're completely at their captors' mercy, because ransom is generally far too high for an adventurer to afford. Lockpick use could be tied into adventuring skill, with a higher possibility that they work the higher your adventuring skill. They could also make item searches more fruitful, as the adventurer could use them to get past doors or windows impeding their search.<br>
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Hopefully neither of these have been removed already... if so, apologies! [[User:seauld|SA]]

Latest revision as of 17:36, 29 March 2011

This is where you can add new ideas for Items for adventurers to gather.

All items should be one of the following:

  • gems
  • animal parts
  • rare materials
  • misc. items

We are not talking magic items here. Nor are we talking about useful items. No horses, weapons, etc. As of now, the only (known) use for these items is as material for repairing or creating Unique Items by the Sage.

Stuff that I've removed was removed either because it didn't fit or because it was added to the game. No, I won't say which one in each case. Sorry. --Tom 09:47, 16 December 2006 (CET)



Gems

During the time period that BM takes place in, people recognized only two types of gems: Precious (ruby, sapphire, emerald and diamond) and Semi-Precious (everything else). A good example reference would be al-Biruni, who wrote about the causes of gemstone market fluctuations in the 11th century. Anyway, the four precious stones have probably already been implemented into the game, so here is short list of semi-precious stones that I recommend for implementation.

  • Aquamarine
  • Golden Beryl
  • Onyx
  • Amythest
  • Agate
  • Nephrite (i.e. Jade)
  • Garnet
  • Tourmaline

I did not include Quartz or Beryl because they are more like species of gem instead of actual gems, but some of their varieties are included above. It might also be nice to include the quality of the gem in its name, or perhaps the sage could "appraise" the gem. (Precious vs semi-precious is a distinction of type, not quality.) If quality is something we want to work into the game, here are the basic measures of quality.

Added by Vlad 18:35, 29 March 2011 (CEST)

  • Topaz
  • Bloodstone (Chalcedony)
  • Quartz
  • Smokey Quartz
  • Labradorite
  • Pearl
  • Amber
  • Turqouise
  • Coral
  • Star Saphire


  • Color
  • Clarity
  • Carat

I left out "Cut" because I doubt an adventurer is going to stumble across a gem that has already been cut for him. If it has been cut, it is probably set in a ring or something and therefore it belongs to a different category of item. Or perhaps "cutting" is another task the sage could perform. Anyway, we could implement gem quality into BM by describing one of these features in the name of the item. For example, "Large Garnet" for greater carats, or "Smokey Amythest" for poor clarity. And just in case it was not clear (no pun intended), "Golden Beryl" is a variety of beryl, not a measure of the gem's color quality.

Cheever 19:39, 7 January 2007 (CET)

Animal Parts

  • Rabbit's foot (submitted by JF)
  • Long sharp horn, probably coming from some terrifying monster
  • Deer skull
  • Bear claw, symbol of strength
  • Moose antlers
  • Live ferret (in a cage)
  • Ivory (Westgate)

Materials

Witchweed
Dragon's eye
Zombie parts
Incantations of bliss
Ogre hairs
Gurgleweed
Pixie Blossom
Elfin bone
Essence of newt
A Mana crystal
Feather
Cow/Dragon hide

Black powder (XK) Quality metals for weaponry (XK)

A draught of quicksilver (Westgate)
A dram of saltpetre (perhaps the components would be more suitable since Tom has said that no gunpowder exists) (Westgate) (Actually saltpetre is just potassium nitrate, so it -is- a component. Unless you want to make Potassium Nitrogen and Oxygen atoms as item components. It has other uses besides gunpowder) (Japheth)
chunk of brimstone (sulphur - it burns with blue flame, it melts to blood-red liquid that becomes thicker as it heats, what more mystic and yet historical material can you ask for?) (Westgate)

Miscellaneous Items

Parts of things, used to create a whole:

  • Pommel, hilt, and blade.
  • Ring band, setting, small gem.
  • Gold chain, pedant.
  • Tools or weapons lacking a shaft:
    • Shovel blade, axe head, hammer head, spear point, halberd blade, glaive

The idea being that one would visit a craftsman to repair these things. This is similar to a sage, but not involving magical items. These could just be worth good money, or could add to the adventuring or combat skill of the wielder.


(Hope you are still accepting ideas: Joshua Ferguson)

Small Pouch of Tools (Submitted by JF)

Bag of Unknown Powder (Submitted by JF)

Painting of an Ancient Noble (Submitted by JF)

Map of the Continent from 100 years ago (no real value) (Submitted by JF)

Saddle (XK)

Dutch oven (XK)


Utility, usable, or mundane: (Westgate)

wineskin / leather flask more appropriate than a glass bottle for the era
'reading stones' a primitive glass lens (9th century onward) / spectacles (1350ish)
parchment and charcoal / ink, quills, and vellum - parchment is the lining side of skin (sheepskin, calf/goat/deer) and is thin, whereas vellum is more durable, made from the entire unsplit skin (calfskin, technically, but also refers to high-quality parchment regardless of animal) by soaking in lime, scraping with a knife, and smoothing with pumice
hardtack, fruitcake - Other foods, like the honey that already exists, that were made as travel food. Note also that honey was used to help prevent infections on wounds.
blanket - perhaps factored into the weather system allowing better sleep during the cold times
a block of salt - the most ancient seasoning addition - also suitable as an material ingredient


Games: (Westgate)

deck of cards (mentioned below, but not really a commoner's item)
dice / dice and cup
draughts / checkers pieces
chess pieces perhaps worth something to nobles, something like the Lewis Chessmen

Treasure: (Westgate)

filigree-adorned diadem (a diadem is "an ornamental jewelled headdress signifying sovereignty" and filigree is delicate or intricate ornamentation, usually with wires of precious metal)
gilded jewel box Used to hold precious jewelry and other valuables. Empty, but worth something by itself
inlaid harp It looks as if angels may have misplaced this fine instrument (perhaps more suited to a unique item e.g. Angelic Harp)
porcelain ewer Pretty potted pitcher
spices - from common pepper to fine and exotic spices worth hefty sums, these make tainted meat more palatable
incense - Smells nice. Prized by some clergy."
battered tome - "This musty old book may be of use to someone who can read" (Submitted by Trismegistus)

Clothes: (trying to limit it to that which would be worth reselling) (Westgate)

belt - a high quality leather belt with a polished buckle, usually only worn by the well-to-do
brooch/broach - a small decorative clasp or pin worn by noble ladies
boots - black cavalier's boots; woe unto the man wearing them should the barefoot knight ever recognize them

Stuff not sumitted by JF

Royal Pardon

Keys

Broken Armour/Broken(bent arrow)

Tobacco Leaves (#)

Snake Venom

Coca Leaves

Compass

Shovel

Potato Moonshine (#)

Bird Cage

Music Box

Salt and Pepper

Hammock (could be used like a bedroll)

Tinder Box with flint and steel

Deck of Cards

Fang necklace ("Some hunters add fangs of their prey to a piece of string, as testimony of their skill. This time a hunter has fallen prey himself and this necklace is all that's left.")

  • Mandrake - A woodland herb with reported mystical powers: . . . [1] . . . [2]. . . [3] . . .(many other references)

"said to excite delirium and madness; said to be efficacious in chronic rheumatism; powers against demoniacal possession; if ivory is boiled with Mandrake root for six hours, the ivory will become so soft 'that it will take what form or impression you will give it; Josephus ( a respected first-century historian) says . . . that it was certain death to touch this plant" - and on and on.

Mandrake could be a "Wild Card" for Sages, substituting for any one missing ingredient. A "Prepared decoction of Mandrake root" (very rare) might be enough to turn a single Common Item into a Unique. --Recluse 17:41, 17 May 2007 (CEST)

  • "Prepared decoction of Mandrake root" - see above.
  • Belladonna - Like mandrake, a member of the Solanid plant family. Very poisonous.

A diluted tincture was applied to the eyes of Ladies gone a'courting. It dilated the pupils, which is a bodily signal of interest - very flattering to the man who is speaking. Therefore the name "Beautiful Lady", which is what Belladonna means. Or is it a warning, men? A beautiful Lady can be deadly. --Recluse 17:41, 17 May 2007 (CEST)

  • Truffles - A mushroom-like fungus forming underground. Very tasty and rare. Something for your dog to find for you. --Recluse 17:41, 17 May 2007 (CEST)
  • A large warm tent - gives rest equal to 2 - 3 hours of fatigue. --Recluse 17:41, 17 May 2007 (CEST)
  • A big set of antlers
  • A piece of flintstone
  • How about not an item but something to make the monster/ undead- hunt a bit more efficiënt like a dog or something? A bit like tents and bedrolls do for resting? Just a thought.

^---- I love that! Who added the "Dog" idea? Fantastic and very realistic! To be like a real hunting dog it would take some training, adding no effect for perhaps a dozen hunts using the dog, then giving growing improvements, perhaps up to twice the effectiveness against monsters, and at the top of the trained rank (unknown to the player) even adding an occasional Item (probably organic, not metallic) without costing any fatigue. --Recluse 17:41, 17 May 2007 (CEST)

^---- Good idear a dog, what about make that you have to catch a wild dog and train it and make there is a chance that the dog you catch/trying to catch don't like you and hurt you. gave the dog some hitpoint and age. what about some holy water from the local church for battle aginst undead

A Monkey's Paw (Murakama) Spooky connotations of evil magic, if you've ever read the story. [4]

(#)(footnote) - Tobacco, Potatoes, Tomatoes, Chili Peppers, Maize and Squash were unknown in Europe until Columbus. (And therefore unknown in Asia as well.) Amazing how cuisine has changed, isn't it? So how much influence is there from 'the Americas' on BM? --Recluse 17:41, 17 May 2007 (CEST)


not sure if some one put the following things before. Hammer, vinegar, Fishing gear like fishing rod, fishing net, Glove, Nice looking hat, Bucket, Mushroom, make some moshroom poisonous, wild chichen egg, wild turkey as a monster you can kill? pickaxe, Bag that let you carry things around, falls asleep if you got too much fatigue Chair, pottery, Fire wood, local map, Knife,

Seconding the Boots suggestion above, though perhaps not as fancy. A pair of worn homemade leather boots, they can stretch just enough for you to wear them. They could reduce amount of fatigue gained when hunting or travelling, as they'd save your feet from wear and tear.
Also, I think Lockpicks would make a good rare usable item. "A small pouch of metal lockpicks in good condition - their owner will regret losing these." As it is, and I know it's on purpose, if commoners get caught and imprisoned for any reason, they're completely at their captors' mercy, because ransom is generally far too high for an adventurer to afford. Lockpick use could be tied into adventuring skill, with a higher possibility that they work the higher your adventuring skill. They could also make item searches more fruitful, as the adventurer could use them to get past doors or windows impeding their search.
Hopefully neither of these have been removed already... if so, apologies! SA