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A new way to fund temples and guildhouses. The purpose is to ease the drudgework of keeping gold in treasuries via manual transfer of funds.
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==Summary==
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Allow the lord to reimburse temples and guildhouses located in his
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region for maintenance expenses and taxes. Lords would get a separate link for
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each temple/guildhouse he would have to click. It would place the amount of  
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the fee/tax back into the local treasury.
  
General idea:
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==Details==
* Every maintenance period, gold is taken from the local treasury of the guild/temple exactly as it is done using the current system.
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* Every time a temple or guildhouse pays a maintenance fee or tax payment, a
* A corresponding message is sent to the local lord listing the maintenance fees paid by all guildhouses and temples in his region.,
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message is sent to the local lord of the region in which it is located listing the  
** Secret society safehouses are specifically excluded! They do not use this new system.
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maintenance fees paid by it. The message is delivered just like a normal status
** The link would only be provided for a temple if the lord is a member of that religion. You should not be able to fund other religions in this manner.
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report, and will be available in the message history.
*** Option: Also provide the link if the lord's religion and the temple's religion ''both'' consider each other as Variants. Gives additional incentive for Variant classifications, as opposed to Misguided or Ignore.
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* The message to the lord includes a link allowing him to pay the maintenance  
*** Option: Only allow funding of guilds of which the lord is a member.
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fee. The link is active regardles of his location, so long as he is not traveling. A
* The message to the lord includes a link allowing him to pay the maintenance fee. The link is available to him anywhere, so long as he is not traveling.
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separate link is provided for each temple and guildhouse so the lord can choose  
** A separate link is provided for each temple and guildhouse. The lord can choose to support only those he wants to support.
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to support only those he wants. The link is only active for 5 days, after which it
* If the lord clicks the link, then the amount of the maintenance fee is removed from the regional economy and placed in the guildhouse local treasury.
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becomes non-functional.
** Should it come out of the lord's pocket, or can it be pulled from the local economy, like the trade balance?
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* The lord must click the link to fund each individual temple/guildhouse that he
* If the region has no lord on maintenance day, the no message is generated, and the alternative funding is not available for that maintenance period. As such, temples and guildhouses in rogue regions could not benefit from this system.
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wants to fund. It is not an automatic deduction. If he doesn't click the link, then
* Maintenance fees are still paid as normal: The gold for maintenance still comes from the local treasury. If the local is empty, then the global. If the global is empty then the guildhouse/temple decays as normal.
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nothing happens and it costs him nothing. If the lord clicks the link, then the  
* The link provided to the lord ''only replenishes the local treasury'' by the exact amount of the maintenance fee. It will not save a temple or guildhouse if the local and global are both empty, since the gold would be placed in the treasury ''after'' maintenance is counted. In fact, if the temple/guildhouse is disbanded, the lord would not even get a link, just a message saying it fell apart due to lack of funds.
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amount of the maintenance fee is taken from the lord's pocket and placed in  
* The lord must click the link to fund each temple/guildhouse if he desires to fund it. It is ''not'' an automatic deduction. If he doesn't click the link, then nothing happens and it costs him nothing.
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the guildhouse local treasury.
* Guilds also pay taxes. Should the lord also be given a link to refund the tax collected on guild treasuries?
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* If the region has no lord on maintenance day, the no message is generated.  
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* Maintenance fees and taxes are still paid as normal: The gold for maintenance  
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still comes from the local treasury. As usual, if the local is empty, then the  
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global pays it. If the global is empty then the guildhouse/temple decays as  
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normal.
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* The link provided to the lord only replenishes the local treasury by the exact  
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amount of the maintenance fee/tax. It will not save a temple or guildhouse if  
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the local and global are both empty, since the gold would not be placed in the  
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local treasury until after maintenance has been assessed, and the guildhouse
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reduced/closed. If the temple/guildhouse is disbanded, the lord would not even  
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get a message at all.
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* Secret society safehouses are specifically excluded from this system.
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Some options that could restrict/enhance the system:
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+ Option: The link would only be provided for a temple if the lord is a member
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of that religion. You should not be able to fund other religions in this manner.
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+ Option: Also provide the link if the lord's religion and the temple's religion
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both consider each other as Variants. Gives additional incentive for Variant
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classifications, as opposed to leaving other religions at Ignore.
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+ Option: Only allow funding of guilds of which the lord is a member.  
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+ Option: If a guildhouse/temple in a region is clsoed, inform the local lord.
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==Summary==
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Keeping local treasuries stocked in the guildhouses/temples of larger guilds and
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religions as very tedious and time-consuming, and can distract from actually
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playing the game. This system would allow local lords to easily help in the  
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burdensome task of maintaining local treasuries, while still allowing neglected
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temples and guildhouses to fall apart.
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==Tom's Response==
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"Spamming the region lords is not a good idea.
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If the region lord wants to support something, he can contribute to the local treasury. That is
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something I would support, an option for non-members to add gold to a temple (definitely) and maybe
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guild house (maybe) as a donation."

Latest revision as of 14:33, 5 August 2010

Summary

Allow the lord to reimburse temples and guildhouses located in his region for maintenance expenses and taxes. Lords would get a separate link for each temple/guildhouse he would have to click. It would place the amount of the fee/tax back into the local treasury.

Details

  • Every time a temple or guildhouse pays a maintenance fee or tax payment, a

message is sent to the local lord of the region in which it is located listing the maintenance fees paid by it. The message is delivered just like a normal status report, and will be available in the message history.

  • The message to the lord includes a link allowing him to pay the maintenance

fee. The link is active regardles of his location, so long as he is not traveling. A separate link is provided for each temple and guildhouse so the lord can choose to support only those he wants. The link is only active for 5 days, after which it becomes non-functional.

  • The lord must click the link to fund each individual temple/guildhouse that he

wants to fund. It is not an automatic deduction. If he doesn't click the link, then nothing happens and it costs him nothing. If the lord clicks the link, then the amount of the maintenance fee is taken from the lord's pocket and placed in the guildhouse local treasury.

  • If the region has no lord on maintenance day, the no message is generated.
  • Maintenance fees and taxes are still paid as normal: The gold for maintenance

still comes from the local treasury. As usual, if the local is empty, then the global pays it. If the global is empty then the guildhouse/temple decays as normal.

  • The link provided to the lord only replenishes the local treasury by the exact

amount of the maintenance fee/tax. It will not save a temple or guildhouse if the local and global are both empty, since the gold would not be placed in the local treasury until after maintenance has been assessed, and the guildhouse reduced/closed. If the temple/guildhouse is disbanded, the lord would not even get a message at all.

  • Secret society safehouses are specifically excluded from this system.

Some options that could restrict/enhance the system: + Option: The link would only be provided for a temple if the lord is a member of that religion. You should not be able to fund other religions in this manner. + Option: Also provide the link if the lord's religion and the temple's religion both consider each other as Variants. Gives additional incentive for Variant classifications, as opposed to leaving other religions at Ignore. + Option: Only allow funding of guilds of which the lord is a member. + Option: If a guildhouse/temple in a region is clsoed, inform the local lord.

Summary

Keeping local treasuries stocked in the guildhouses/temples of larger guilds and religions as very tedious and time-consuming, and can distract from actually playing the game. This system would allow local lords to easily help in the burdensome task of maintaining local treasuries, while still allowing neglected temples and guildhouses to fall apart.


Tom's Response

"Spamming the region lords is not a good idea.

If the region lord wants to support something, he can contribute to the local treasury. That is something I would support, an option for non-members to add gold to a temple (definitely) and maybe guild house (maybe) as a donation."